How God Forgave us all

THE GUILT WE FEEL

Guilt is vertical:
            is towards God, or a human authority,
            is of the heart/spirit.
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Shame is horizontal:
            is towards people,
            is of the soul.

In this site I write about guilt rather than shame.

See first cell
of earlier section: HEART/SPIRIT & SOUL, , , ,

 

If you, your heart/spirit, looked:
            at all your bad points,
            and (less importantly), at all the bad you’d done,
you’d hate it all.

 

This hatred is:
            internal guilt, felt guilt.

 

Internal guilt, felt guilt, disappears
only when all of your:
            bad points
            & bad done,
have been:
            fixed/healed/paid for/superseded/made up for/etc,
            by you/others/time passing/God
            in this life or the next.

 

THE GUILT WE DON’T FEEL

You may say:

            “Surely, Jesus’ Punishment, in our place,
              took away my felt guilt.

              So I should feel nothing,
              should be like the following diagram.”

 

But I say:

            “Jesus’ Punishment took away:
                       the long arrow,
                       your guilt before God,
                       the guilt outside you,
                       the guilt you don’t feel.

            Jesus’ Punishment did not take away:
                       the short arrows,
                       your guilt before yourself,
                       the guilt inside you,
                       the guilt you feel.

                       It’s still there.

BEFORE PUNISHMENT

DURING PUNISHMENT

AFTER PUNISHMENT

The Son existed,
in the past,
only because he
travelled back in time.

See earlier section:
HOW JESUS EXISTED
BEFORE HE WAS BORN., ,

The grey area, in God,
was his bad, yet right, quality
of hating all that’s wrong in us.

Perhaps see earlier section:
GOOD & BAD, RIGHT & WRONG.
and earlier webpage:
The good & bad
that God does. , ,

God won’t need
a grey area
for bad to be done
to us
on Judgment Day.

See later webpage:
We choose
where we go. , ,

 

YOU FEEL ONLY
THE SHORT ARROWS

 

If you broke the law, and the police caught you
and you were found guilty:

            The courtroom judge would say:
            “You are guilty.”

            But you may, or may not, feel guilty
            quite independently of this.

 

Likewise, if you’ve ever done anything wrong, however small:

            God would say: “You are guilty.”             the long arrow


            But, you may, or may not, feet guilty         the short arrows
            quite independently of this.

Though, actually, this would have to have been two-thousand years ago or more,
when the long arrow still existed, before Jesus took it from us.

 

 

 

THE LOGIC OF THE CROSS

 

Your heart/spirit:

            Hates, wants to destroy,
            all your bad points.

            Though only in order to rebuild you
            with good points.

 












 

Likewise, up until two-thousand years ago,
God too:

            Hated, wanted to destroy,
            all your bad points.

            Though only in order to rebuild you
            with good points.

 









 

 

 

Then, two-thousand years ago:
            the Son took
            the Father’s hatred of all our bad points.

 









 

            Hence the Father stopped
            wanting to correct us.

 








 

            So now, whether we change or not
            is a matter of:

                       Our choice.
,                  ,         ,         Perhaps see later webpage:
,                  ,         ,         We choose where we go. ,,,,,

                       Our free will.
,         ,         ,         ,         Perhaps see first two sections
,         ,         ,         ,         of later webpage: The will, and the free will. ,,,,,

 

            It’s now up to us to correct ourselves:

                       Using the power God’s Spirit gives believers
                       now.

                       Using the power God will give everyone
                       on Judgment Day.
,         ,         ,         ,         Perhaps see earlier section:
,         ,         ,         ,         MORALLY MATURING BY OURSELVES. ,,,,,

 

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      Jesus, God’s Son, made:
                 all of us,
                 past present & future,
,                            See first section of earlier webpage:
,                            Time travel occurs in Heaven.,,,,,

      holy in his Father’s eyes.

      That’s how the Father was able to give:
                 his Holy Spirit
                 to all of us.

,                            For my definition of the word ‘holy’
,                            see third cell
,                            of earlier section: FIRST COMPLAINT.,,,,,

 

      Mind you, even though God gave his Spirit to everyone:


            Only those who’ve accepted Jesus’ sayings:
                       “forgive all who’ve hurt you”,
                       “love your (personal) enemies”,
                       etc,
            will accept help to do those things,
            namely from God’s Spirit.

            Only those who’ve accepted the Son
            also accept the Spirit.

            The Spirit makes no sense to unbelievers.

            John c14 v16-17:
            And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you
            another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
            even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
            because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:
            but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you,
            and shall be in you.   KJV

            Perhaps read the whole of John c14, , , , .

 

 

 

THIS IS A TECHNICAL SITE

 

The Bible often says that:

            Jesus was Punished for our sins.    actions/verbs/processes
,,                 1 Cor c15 v3    Gal c1 v4    Heb c1 v3    1 Pet c2 v24    1 John c1 v7    etc


And this communicates the gospel perfectly
to the common man:
            actions are indeed a fair measure
            of the structure that produced them.

 

But, technically speaking:
            it was our bad points      objects/nouns/structures

            that produce our sins     actions/verbs/processes

            that Jesus was Punished for.

            Jesus was Punished in our place.    Matt c20 v28, , .

 

 

 


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