The origin of angels & demons
THE FIRST WAR
					I needed some thing with a mind of its own, that is someone else when I pick up the phone, 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 that wouldn’t just yield or sit up and beg, that would think and decide on all that I said. So I made lots of angels to be as they chose: some became friends some became foes.
					The bad angels sought to topple my headship with subtlety of lie & one-sided gossip: Though Heaven had order they campaigned for law, then campaigned for peace though they’d not yet caused war. Though Heaven had plenty complained all they could, then shrewdly complained on behalf of the good.
					Their complaints were unfounded but their feelings were real: completely sincere, a genuine zeal. No truths in their hearts for lies to grow on. Just truths as a skin to shed when they’re done. They hid, from themselves, behind formality. Denied, first themselves, then the rest of reality.
					Then they arose self-righteous & proud, vicious, ungrateful, mock-holy & loud. Multi-armed swords flashed clashed and grated as two glowing armies of angels were fated to fight to the death of eternal submission: one mad with badness one with God’s vision.
					The good, never yielding, pushed the bad back, to another dimension a supernatural sack where bad fought with bad (more bad than sane) until their bad spirits were all that remained.
					Those spirits, called demons, would all things destroy. But they can’t, so they us for destruction employ. They make us temptations and offer vain powers. So don’t bother sniffing at Satan’s flowers.
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, Satan is the leading demon , but underling demons are often referred to as Satan or the devil.
, Some Christians may say: , “The war was later than that.” Rev c12 v7-10 , But I say: , “An early war explains the way things are , (and this is a technical site). , Luke c10 v18 is explained by , later section: HOW JESUS EXISTED BEFORE HE WAS BORN.” ,,,,,
, Some Christians may say: , “You haven’t mentioned that only one third of the angels , became bad. Rev c12 v4” , But I say: , “That’s mentioned only once in the Bible , so it shouldn’t be made into a doctrine. , Besides, Rev c8 – c12 is festooned with , 14 instances of: the third or: a third.”
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MAKING ANGELS
When God made angels he installed, in them, non-moral knowledge: how to walk, talk, read, etc. But he did not install, in them, moral knowledge: whether to eventually become completely constructive or completely destructive. They’d have to decide that for themselves.
It’s a decision that will shape all they know so it cannot have input from anything they know so it must be part of the first moral decision they make. , , If it could have input from anything they know , , then God would have designed everything they know about , , so that everything they know , , would cause all of them , , to decide to eventually become completely constructive.
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God made angels such that they already knew how to walk, talk, read, etc, Like AI. See earlier section: SELF-TEACHING COMPUTERS.,,,, because it was quick. He knew that they’d soon be fighting each other and he wanted the war to start promptly, not be staggered.
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GOD: THE CONSIDERATE DELEGATOR
So God gave, to the good angels, the task of fighting the bad angels. But that task was not as difficult as it sounds: The bad angels had the advantage of asymmetry: They merely wanted to mindlessly destroy. Whereas God & the good angels wanted to defend. However, a bigger advantage soon fell to the good angels: The good angels wanted to serve or be served, whichever was needed. But the bad angels wanted to only be served.
This flexibility of the good angels produced teamwork. And teamwork is a big military advantage.
Indeed, the good angels’ many virtues: eagerness to obey or to command, common sense, wisdom, understanding, bravery, industry, patience, etc, and the bad angels’ many vices: indiscipline, lack of foresight, lack of thought, cowardliness, laziness, impatience, etc, increased the good angels’ advantage even more.
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SOME TECHNICAL DEFINITIONS
Angels were quickly made by the all-at-once factory method in a simple environment.							Humans are slowly grown by the seed method in a complex environment.
Good angels: Never did wrong. And so never gained personal knowledge of wrong. Bad angels (now demons): Never did right. And so never gained personal knowledge of right.							Most humans: Have each done both right and wrong. And so have each gained personal knowledge of both right and wrong. , Perhaps see later section: , GOOD & BAD, RIGHT & WRONG , and, immediately after it: , EXAMPLES.
Good angels have already fully changed themselves. Bad angels have already fully changed themselves.							We humans have not yet fully changed ourselves. Perhaps see later section: HOWEVER, ON JUDGMENT DAY, OUR HEARTS/SPIRITS WILL CHANGE US QUICKLY.
Good angels always do right, never wrong. So they never need God’s Forgiveness. Bad angels (now demons) always do wrong, never right. But never want God’s Forgiveness.							All humans do right and wrong. Hence God Forgave all of us by way of Jesus being crucified in place of all of us. (But do you want to discard your own righteousness so that you can, instead, have the righteousness that Jesus gave to all of us?)
Good angels never have God’s Spirit. Bad angels (now demons) never have God’s Spirit.							Those who believe in Jesus have God’s Spirit forever. Matt c28 v20 John c14 v18 Heb c13 v5 Jesus’ crucifixion in our place and God’s Spirit inside us makes ours an intimate rescue.
Any being (angel, demon, human, alien,) that does not have: A telepathic connection with God. Or, ideally, has God’s Spirit. has a finite memory capacity even though he/she is eternal.							In effect, God’s Spirit provides (amongst other things) a continuous add-on memory capacity: 1 John c2 v20: But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. KJV This makes our lives, here, and in the new Earth, better, more complex. For new Earth, see: Isa c65 v17 Isa c66 v22 2 Pet c3 v13 Rev c21 v1. Perhaps again see later section: GOOD & BAD, RIGHT & WRONG. , ,
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DESTROYING EACH OTHER
God has set things up so that a dimension is: a set of Indivisible Factors which interact with each other but not automatically with those of another dimension. Hence, we can’t go wandering into Heaven and nothing in Heaven can automatically come here.
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God made the Second Dimension by pushing the bad angels out of his presence and into the Second Dimension. See third & fourth cells (starting I say) of later section: THIRD COMPLAINT. Then, in this Second Dimension: The bad angels could reach each other but could not reach God or the good angels. Hence the bad angels started destroying each other.
They prioritised destroying: their opponents’ ability to fight back, their opponents’ physically interactive abilities. So their opponents’ non-physically interactive abilities ended up not being destroyed.
Hence the bad angels all ended up:
losing: retaining:						physical form, strength, touch, etc: abilities that can, of themselves, destroy visual form, a mind, emotions, a voice, sight, etc: abilities that cannot, of themselves, destroy.
Hence they became insubstantial, mere spirits(ghosts) of the bad angels they once were, mere demons. (Angels don’t become corpses and spirit(ghosts). They simply downgrade, become demons.)
So the only things demons can do now, without our assistance, without us doing their bidding, are: o see o be seen Seen by our spirit(cores), the ‘eyes of the heart’. , , Or, if they so choose, by our eyes, natural sight. o speak Telepathically. o hear Acoustically or telepathically , , (though they’re not able to read minds). , , Perhaps see later big section: TELEPATHY.,,,,, o think With their minds. o feel With their emotions.
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THE FORM OF HUMANS’ & ANGELS’ BODIES
Our human form is shaped by: o Gravity pulling us down onto a flat surface. o Our need for: locomotion, respiration, digestion, reproduction, sexual attraction. o Our need for: fingers (& therefore arms), forward vision, hearing, & perhaps smell. o The effect our eternal nature has on our bodies (e.g. grunts becoming words). , Perhaps see fourth cell (starting: I reckon the real Adam(s)) to the end of , earlier section: TREAT THE BIBLICAL ADAM & EVE AS REAL. o Etc. (So I suspect that aliens have a similar layout to us.)
The Father made Jesus’ resurrected body able to eat Luke c24 v43, and Jesus says we will eat with him in Heaven (or on the new Earth). Luke c22 v30, But, will our bodies also excrete, also have fully functioning intestines? No. The idea of sewage works in Heaven (or on the new Earth) is too un-heavenly. So, whether: We are functionally similar to aliens or not. The Son suffered on other planets too John c10 v16,,,,, or not. There’ll be one new Earth and many other, different, planets or not. our future form, humanoid or not, will be: Purely cosmetic. Not humanoid out of necessity (as it is here & now).
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Good angels, having none of the physical & biological needs that we have, have a default form that’s cosmetic, substantial but cosmetic: Good angels change their form, from humanoid to alienoid, according to whether they are speaking to humans or to aliens. Therefore, when God made angels, he gave them all the ability to change form. ,, ,, This is a weak, introductory argument ,, ,, for angels being able to change form. ,, ,, The proper argument is in the fourth cell ,, ,, (starts Hence, during the fighting:) ,, ,, of next section: THE FLOOD: Gen c6 – c8.
God never takes back, from beings, what he’s promised or given. , See first three cells , of later section: WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER. So, God gave the ability to change form even to the angels who, later, became bad. So even bad angels, and therefore even demons, can also change form. Hence (treating the Bible account as true): Satan, while he was still a bad angel, before he became a demon, actually became a snake for a while. Gen c3 v1-5 , N.B. In the KJV even natural snakes are called serpents.
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Good angels each take the right form: Perhaps see later section: GOOD & BAD, RIGHT & WRONG. Whatever form God wants them to take; currently, here, for our sakes, it’s humanoid. Bad angels, now demons, each take the wrong form: The easiest form – invisible. If it’s worth the effort – visible, but light-absorbent black. If it’s worth the effort – visible, and frightening. (Though, of course, whatever their form, demons are insubstantial.) I assume God set a size limit, for all angels, when he made them.
Demonic: temptations, torments (unnecessary fears & worries), scary visions, demons taking on a scary visible form, etc, are all verbal &/or visual structures. , Perhaps see later section: NOT ONLY WORDS, Demons, being fundamentally destructive, find constructing the above (or any creativity or originality) painfully hard. Much harder than you or I would find it. So a demon will construct a temptation/torment/vision only if he reckons that constructing it will be outweighed by the destruction it will cause. Once he’s built a temptation/torment/vision he finds repeating it much less painful than building new ones. Hence demons are repetitious, and this repetitiveness can give them away, as can their conspicuous timing.
, For what to actually do about temptations , see later section: ANOTHER EXAMPLE: TEMPTATIONS. , And the links within it. , (This link does not open a new tab.) , , .
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THE FLOOD: Gen c6 – c8
Perhaps read: Gen c6 – c8, about the flood, for context to this section. You may find this section (& indeed the Bible’s flood account itself) to be rather fanciful. But bear with me.
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				If the first war had been won by the bad angels: Then their winning would have ended with them destroying each others’ bodies (i.e. turning each other into demons) inside Heaven. Then that’s all there’d be: a Heaven with only demons in it.
				But, instead, the good angels won. And their winning ended with them pushing the bad angels: out of the First Dimension, Heaven, and into the Second Dimension. , Perhaps again see third & fourth cells (starting I say) , of later section: THIRD COMPLAINT.
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				All angels can change their form. Perhaps see previous section: THE FORM OF HUMANS’ & ANGELS’ BODIES. ,,,,, Hence, during the fighting: The good angels: Healed their own wounds (constructive) in order to fight (destructive) in order to enable God to continue constructing unhindered (constructive) because they knew that all this would lead to more structure in the end (constructive). Conversely, the bad angels and the demons (the spirits of the ‘dead’ bad angels): Struggled to heal their own wounds. Wanted to be purely destructive. Wanted to fight rather than fix. Indeed, both armies: Weren’t just ‘the way they were’. Weren’t just obeying orders. They wanted to do what they did. It was self-expression.
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				God made the Second Dimension by pushing the bad angels out of his presence and into the Second Dimension. Perhaps again see third & fourth cells (starting I say) of later section: THIRD COMPLAINT. Then God immediately made the universe (of which we became part) also in the Second Dimension. The bad angels, as soon as they were pushed out of Heaven, would have continued to destroy each others’ bodies. But they couldn’t because they immediately found themselves in the big bang: mixed in with this rapidly expanding universe, being rapidly separated from each other. , , Perhaps see item 1) of earlier section: MY ATTITUDE TO THE BIBLE , , , and , earlier section: EVOLUTION: THE SCIENTIFICALLY ELEGANT SOLUTION. , , So the bad angels wouldn’t be able to destroy each other for some time yet. , Perhaps see earlier section: DESTROYING EACH OTHER, , , ,
				Later, when planets & life formed, whatever the bad angels might be attracted to, so as to destroy, would be bringing them closer to each other. If the attractive thing turned out to be: something less satisfying to destroy than destroying each other, or: something that would take only a short time to destroy, then they’d turn on each other instead of, or after, destroying the less satisfying thing.
				The bad angels were attracted by the movement of animals. But they’d find that animals, like things, offered little or no resistance. So they were easy & unsatisfying to destroy. , Perhaps see earlier section: BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT ANIMALS LACK A SPIRIT(CORE). Often, having destroyed the animals, there’d often be groups of two or more bad angels left facing each other. It’s then that they’d fight each other. This resulted in an ever decreasing number of bad angel winners and an ever increasing number of demon losers.
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				The bad angel winners eventually found humans: speaking humans, eternal beings, like themselves. They found us to be: more satisfying to try to destroy, more practicable to try to destroy, than animals or things. Especially if it was a society that: o Was religious (though not with the real God). , Not with the real God – so that the bad angels themselves , would be idolised. o Had an enduring social structure so that, even though they were damaging it, it was self-repairing. Hence the bad angel winners became humanoid, , Perhaps see earlier section: THE FORM OF HUMANS’ & ANGELS’ BODIES joined those societies, then set about destroying them. Yet those societies remained un-destroyed. Quite a meal. , Perhaps again see , earlier section: BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT ANIMALS LACK A SPIRIT(CORE). , , , ,
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				One intuitive form of destroying was for the bad angel winners to become humanoid then physically pollute humanity. The bad angels married women (Married? No harm in respectability.) who produced human children, all male, who grew up to be giants. Gen c6 v1-4 Male: because males lead (certainly at that time & place). Giants: so that they would be idolised, like their fathers. The first generations of giants would be the biggest & worst behaved. Their high IQ and capacity for knowledge (due to their large brain size) would have been greatly reduced by their inherent hatred of social structure, knowledge, constructive thinking, etc. Subsequent generations of giants who married would increasingly normalise as their genes diluted.
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				Going back to the early generations of giants: The bad behaviour of: a. the bad angels b. their sons, the giants, and the bad behaviour of: c. surrounding humanity (behaviour encouraged by a. & b.), inspired God to kill everyone with a flood. Everyone, that is, except Noah and his family. , God randomly chose to be kind to Noah. Gen c6 v8 , Mind you, Noah was a very good man anyway. Gen c6 v9 Gen c7 v1 , , , , .
				Neither Noah nor his sons were giants. So they possessed no giants’ genes. Yet giants continued to exist after the Flood. Deut c3 v11 2 Sam c21 v15-22 (1 Chron c20 v5-8) This shows that not all the giants drowned. This shows that the Flood was not worldwide but local: It seemed worldwide, to its participants. But actually it was local. ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, It was low-lying, but God could have seruptitiously ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, shored up the water at the edges, as in: Exo c14. ,,, , , , , I thought of this before I found the following YouTube video.. , , , , YouTube: – Noah’s Flood: Global or Regional?.,,,,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, Jesus spoke as if the flood were true, even if it were ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, only local. Matt c24 v37-39 Luke c17 v26-27 ,,, Today, there are no giants at all: This shows that giants stopped being conceived &/or born &/or growing to maturity. Or, more probably, they were conceived, born, & grew to maturity, but their genes were increasingly diluted by the wider population.
				The Flood was local because: bad angels, their giant sons, and the humans they all lived with, were local: Before the Flood: the bad angels wanted to be with religious (though not with the real God) people who needed to be near religious (with the real God) people. The bad angels wanted to be near Noah & family because nearness of the real God and his worshippers encourages humans who do not know God to idolise someone or something.
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				Before the Flood: The bad angels stayed in the above location & situation in order to: Not fight each other, retain their bodies, not become demons. Change their bodies to humanoid. Marry women and produce giant sons. Gen c6 v1-4,, Be idolised (thanks to the nearness of Noah). But their offspring, the giants, as they normalised: Had fewer reasons for staying there. So, at least some of them, left the locality and survived the Flood. 1 Sam c17 v1-7,,,,,
				During the Flood: The humanoid bad angels: could change back to being non-humanoid &/or could fly (though they may tend to get lost) &/or did not need to breathe air. Hence they would not have drowned. However, they suddenly found themselves without living human company. So they thought all humans had drowned, thought the flood had been worldwide. So, while in the water, they fought, & destroyed, each other; became demons. , I’ve since found out that ministers call these demons “marine spirits” , and, surprise surprise, they encourage destructive lust more than other sins. , Perhaps see: YouTube: – Free from marine spirits , and spiritual husband. Liverpool Revival Miracle Meeting.,,,,,
				The last man standing principle meant that Satan was the last bad angel. But even he, eventually, destroyed his own body, become a demon. Hence he was able to be inside Judas. Luke c22 v3 John c13 v27 , ,
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				As for lack of archaeological evidence for all the above, I reckon that: Bad angels: o Didn’t make anything themselves. o Tended to destroy things that were given to them to spite the people who’d made them. o Left no corpses. (Angels don’t become corpses and spirits(ghosts). They simply downgrade, become demons.) Giants: Left corpses, big ground-floor rooms, big chairs, big armour, etc. But, after they’d died, those things would’ve been destroyed: o Because of the items’ freakish, frightening, appearance. o Because the giants had few virtues, were unattractive inside, were respected only in life, not in death. o Out of revenge, by relatives & friends of their victims.
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				Don’t worry about giants’ genes remaining in the human gene pool: Materially, carnally, temporarily, in this life: giants’ genes have become very diluted and so are now of negligible material consequence. Spiritually, eternally: giants’ genes never were of any consequence. , See later section: YOU INHERIT THE QUALITIES BUT NOT THE PREVIOUS CHANGES, , and perhaps the two sections before it.
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				HOW DEMONS ARE ABLE TO DO THINGS
				Demons telepathically encourage us to believe: the potency of our sicknesses/problems/wrong ways/etc that we see more than we believe: the potency of Jesus’ self-sacrifice in our place that we don’t see. Even an illness, problem, negative behaviour, etc: that’s not demonic, that’s completely natural, would still attract demons: They would verbally encourage you to: keep your attention on the natural instead of on God and on his love & ability to fix, encourage you to: add fear/vanity/self-pity/depression/short temper to the problem, so that you: o Stay not believing. o Or, if you do believe, add unbelief, to your belief. , Perhaps see later section: UNBELIEF and its subsections. o Even make you accept your illness. All in the hope that you’ll be entertaining: Full of self-pity, selfish anger, (selfish anything). Full of fight instead of faith so that you don’t trigger the miraculous.
				If you have been miraculously healed then, whether you are: a believer, an unbeliever, or a ‘believer’, , , ‘Believers’ are people who don’t believe all that Jesus said: , , are not (yet) believers, but who think they are. I’ve found that a demon can, probably with much effort, put back the symptoms you used to have. Though only the symptoms. But if you then: believe in your spirit(core), that the Almighty succeeded but doubt in your mind, think that the Almighty failed, then the demon, with little effort, will put the whole illness back. Or, if you believe that the demon is greater than God, or even that God doesn’t exist, that only the demon exists, then the demon, with ease, will put the whole illness back. , How can demons physically do things? I explain shortly. (This rolling over & giving in is the opposite of: Jam c4 v7: ctd … Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. KJV) Or, a demon may suggest some natural explanation for your miraculous healing: that’s agreeable, particularly to you, that you would believe instead of believing that God healed you, so that you don’t go to God again. Or, if you believe wrong religious teaching: o that God is unloving or weak, o or that God has not Forgiven all human sins past present & future, o or that God is doing you bad in order to do you good, then the demon will: deliver your expectations, work on God’s behalf anonymously, ensure that your faith is rewarded, and that God gets all the credit. , See last three cells (starting Our account with the Father) , of later section: THE TWO ACCOUNTS.
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				Using their own imagination is a constructive thing for a demon to do. Hence it’s difficult & painful for them. Hence they tend to imitate the things of the world and even the things of God. Though always to wrong effect. Exo c7 v7 – c8 v17: Some of the things Moses & Aaron did Pharaoh’s magicians then did (even though it was against their own interests). my abbn Matt c24 v24 (Mark c13 v22): For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. KJV For clarification of this verse see later section: TRICKS & MIRACLES, ,
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				But how can demons act in physical ways (as compared to verbal ways)? How can they, for example, cause sickness? Biblically, Jesus usually healed people of natural sicknesses. It’s not often that Jesus healed people of sickness that was caused by demons. I can find only two instances. 1) Luke c13 v16: And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? KJV 2) Matt c9 v32-33 Matt c12 v22 Luke c11 v14 Jesus healed a man of dumbness by casting out a demon from him. my abbreviation
				When demons do cause sickness, I reckon they’re helped by the design of this place: Sickness is one of the many bad aspects that God has already designed into this place. , Perhaps see later webpage: The design of everything. Also, God would have made the particles that make up: himself, his Spirit, & his Son, and angels & demons, of similar size etc to the particles we are made of for the sake of interaction & communication. However, demons actually cause sickness because: When God made angels, he gave them all: 1) Natural power (we also have this). 2) Supernatural power (we don’t have this). 3) No authority: Hence, every time they wanted to use either power, particularly their supernatural power, they needed God’s authority to do so. Authority = Someone giving you, or denying you, permission to do it. Letting you, or stopping you, do it. Power = You, quite separately, possessing the ability to do it.
				God never takes back, from beings, what he’s promised or given. Perhaps see first three cells of later section: WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER. ,,, So, God never took back, from angels: 1) natural power, 2) supernatural power. So, when the bad angels destroyed each others’ bodies: Perhaps see earlier section: DESTROYING EACH OTHER. ,,, They destroyed their own: 1) natural power so that they now have only: 2) supernatural power. But they still need: 3) God’s authority to use that: 2) supernatural power; authority that God will never give. , Perhaps again see first three cells , of later section: WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER. , , , , ,
				We humans, though eternal, are part of the earth. We humans were given: authority over the Earth – the only authority we have, authority to use our natural power – the only power we have. Gen c1 v28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. KJV Natural authority & natural power are the only authority & power we have in this life. (Unless, of course, you are a Christian in which case you also have God’s powerful Holy Spirit.) And demons already have supernatural power. So, if we give them our authority to use their supernatural power – then they can supernaturally do things. Mark c5 v1-10 Luke c8 v26-31: A large number of demons, all in one man, broke any chains & manacles used to bind him. my abbn Acts c16 v16-18: Paul cast a spirit out of a girl that had enabled her to tell the future. my abbreviation Acts c19 v13-16: A demon, within a man, overpowered seven men. my abbreviation , Perhaps see later section: DEMON POSSESSION, , .
				Hence, if you want to do wrong: here in this natural world but by supernatural means, and don’t mind being symbiotically allied with a demon Symbiotic = mutually parasitic. (Many natural creatural relationships are symbiotic.) then the demon will do the supernatural wrong that you & the demon both want: 1) Demons outlive humans. So one human’s ‘legitimate’ hatred of another human could include his/her descendents. Hence such a hatred could authorise a demon to ‘legitimately’ carry out that hatred: a curse. , , , Perhaps see later webpage: Demons love laws. Then, after the person dies, the demon could act against the victim’s descendants. Hence, in Mark c9 v14-27 (Matt c17 v14-18), a child has a demon. 2) Exo c7 v8-12: Satan &/or his underling demons were behind Pharaoh’s magicians’ ability to turn sticks into snakes. my abbreviation , , , Perhaps also see later section: TRICKS & MIRACLES. To conclude: Demons already have supernatural power. So, all they need, to actually do things, is human authority.
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God never takes back, from beings, what he’s promised or given. Perhaps again see first three cells of later section: WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER. Hence God never takes back the authority he gave us. But authority, without power, means nothing: So, as soon as we die as soon as we lose our natural power over the earth (the only power we have) then our authority over the earth (the only authority we have) becomes meaningless. Natural authority & natural power are the only authority & power we have in this life. (Unless, of course, you are a Christian in which case you also have God’s powerful Holy Spirit.) Authority = Someone giving you, or denying you, permission to do it. Letting you, or stopping you, do it. Power = You, quite separately, possessing the ability to do it. Hence human spirits(ghosts), on their own, can do nothing, can only speak. Hence, in 1 Sam c28, the living witch of Endor had: her own God-given natural authority plus a demon’s supernatural power so she was able to raise Samuel’s ‘sleeping’ spirit(ghost) from the dead. And Samuel, being ‘asleep’ in death, could not stop her progress. However, once raised, a prophet’s words still have power. 1 Sam c28: The spirit(ghost) of the prophet Samuel, awoken by a witch, gave one last, damning, prophesy to king Saul. my abbn
Mind you, an ‘awake’ spirit(ghost) can physically do things by combining: their own natural authority with a demon’s supernatural power, providing both agree as to what should be done. But such activity is stopped by: a living human, who believes & has no unbelief, commanding them to stop, in Jesus’ name.
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Regarding: Exo c7 v8-12: Satan &/or his underling demons were behind Pharaoh’s magicians’ ability to turn sticks into snakes. my abbreviation you & a demon may not want to turn sticks into snakes: You may want God’s voice to be muffled for you and for things to go to plan as you commit adultery. And the demon will do those things for you. But the demon may also do some other bad thing to you as part of the deal. He’d have mentioned it when you didn’t care what he said, e.g. when your excitement at the prospect of adultery was at its highest. Think of it as dealing with a legalistic criminal.
But, whether a demon causes strife/expense/illness/etc in your life or ‘merely’ wastes your time: Symbiotically allying with a demon will always be something you eventually regret. Eventually you will cease coming back to do business with him. , Symbiotic = mutually parasitic. , (Many natural creatural relationships are symbiotic.)
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So, there are occasions when a demon directly causes an illness. Perhaps see two cells (starting But how can demons act) earlier in this section. But there are also occasions when a demon merely keeps a natural illness in place: Mark Hemans, , Perhaps see eighth cell (starting Mark Hemans) , of earlier section: ABOUT BIBLICAL TEACHER-HEALERS GENERALLY, , and some of Mark’s many YouTube links that follow that. , (This link does not open a new tab.) Smith Wigglesworth, , Perhaps see thirteenth cell (starting Smith Wigglesworth, 1859-1947) , of earlier section: ABOUT BIBLICAL TEACHER-HEALERS GENERALLY. and many other biblical teacher-healers on that webpage: see many sicknesses as defended by, even caused by, demons. Hence such healers first cast out the demon then God is able to, easily & immediately, heal the sickness. We all have demons hanging around us, speaking to us whenever they want to. Perhaps see later section: ANOTHER EXAMPLE: TEMPTATIONS. Even Jesus had Satan, the leading demon, hanging around him, talking to him, more than once. Perhaps see sixth cell (starting A demon will keep) of earlier section: KNOW YOUR ENEMY.
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How does a demon keep a natural illness in place? The patient is eager to be healed, But God is very very very eager to heal (if the Cross is anything to go by). However, the patient has a sinful way/activity that they like: They dislike the sickness more than they like the sinning. But the sinning has become an entrenched habit. 2 Cor c10 v3-5,,, Hence the patient has a demon hanging around and that demon verbally encourages the sinning: by providing the patient with strategy & excuses to give himself/herself for sinning. The demon speaks phrases that the person: thinks are their own &/or soon adopts as their own. “You’re right to not forgive him/her (and be bitter & angry).” “You’re right to feel sorry for yourself (and be loveless).” “The others have hurt you (so hurt them back).” “(There is no God, so) do what you want.” It’s all carnal, worldly, ‘logic’ that comes with an emotional buzz & sensual satisfaction. All of which keeps you coming back for more. The demon has tricked the patient into welcoming him. The patient and the demon now have a symbiotic relationship. , Symbiotic = mutually parasitic. , (Many natural creatural relationships are symbiotic.)
It’s not that: The demon is able to stop the Almighty from healing. It’s that: God has given everyone free will and the patient wants the demon to hang around & speak and the demon is repellent to God and all parties know it (though you might not). Hence, if someone: who has a demon hanging around them, speaking to them, nevertheless agrees for a believer to: cast the demon away/out , See later section: DEMON POSSESSION to see why I write ‘away/out’. even if it’s only temporarily , (temporarily – for the patient could invite the demon back in) then, as soon as the demon’s gone, God can heal. It would bring instant relief, and insight, such that the patient is less likely to welcome the demon back into their life and, instead, more likely to cling to God. ,, ,, ,, ,, ‘Less likely’ depending on how much they suffered, ,, ,, ,, ,, how glad they are that the demon’s gone. ,, ,, ,, ,, A minister might even refrain ,, ,, ,, ,, (or be told by God to refrain) ,, ,, ,, ,, from casting out a demon ,, ,, ,, ,, because the patient’s not ready for it yet.
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SATAN LIKES IT HERE
Satan, the leading demon, likes it here: Where structures are fragile, more easily broken than built. And concentric circles of selfishness are built into every creature. , Perhaps see later section: , IN WHAT WAYS DID GOD MAKE THE UNIVERSE SECOND CLASS? , ,
And Satan likes us – like a cat likes to play with a mouse: If demons encouraged us to actually kill each other it would cut short their new lives here. So, instead, demons encourage limited destructiveness, sustainable if possible, with self-interest as the excuse they give us to give ourselves.
Our fragility restricts demons’ choice of temptations: from . . “destroy each other” to . . . . “be selfish”. But half a loaf is better than none.
Satan likes it that: We are made of the same material as animals. Yet we are eternal. Hence, for us: the law of the jungle became the ways of the world.
And Satan likes the way that: earth is what God gave us but world is what we made of it.
And Satan likes the way that: lack of teamwork comes with competition, and opportunity to interfere comes with teamwork.
Satan finds great self-expression here for someone without a body.
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Perhaps see: , later section: WE ARE PLAYGROUNDS , and , first four cells of later section: THE BASIC MECHANICES , and , later section: ANOTHER EXAMPLE: TEMPTATIONS. , , , ,
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PYRAMIDS
THE KINGDOM OF THE WORLD & THE KINGDOM OF DEMONS
The world: o Likes human heroes, not God. o Likes to own what it’s earned, not hear that there’s a God who says: “It’s all mine. But I want to be generous towards you.” o Does not like being told what to do, even by God. o Does not like being forgiven, even by God: Would prefer to earn such forgiveness if such forgiveness were needed. Human justice sells papers, not God’s forgiveness. o God is not welcome in the world. , Perhaps see later section: , IN WHAT WAYS DID GOD MAKE THE UNIVERSE SECOND CLASS? , ,
The kingdom of the world and the kingdom of demons are two pyramids meshed together. Our life is their life. They are our parasites. , Perhaps see previous section: , SATAN LIKES IT HERE. , , , , ,
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The first humans, Adam & Eve, chose to turn away from: their, now hidden, maker who, fundamentally, is loving, and turn towards: their own wisdom – built on the seen world, and an evil advisor. , Perhaps see earlier section: , THE IMPORTANCE OF THE GARDEN OF EDEN. Every generation repeats that choice, that mistake. , Perhaps see later section: THE FIRST SIN. We each gave our world to Satan, our authority over it to Satan. He may say very little. But we, so often, do what he says. That’s why Satan was able to offer the world to Jesus in what would have been a bad deal. Luke c4 v5-7 (Matt c4 v8-9): And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. KJV Jesus refused Satan’s offer. But Jesus could not undo us having given the world to Satan in the first place. However, Jesus did what he could do: For those who believe in him he overcame the world John c16 v33 by giving us: Heaven in the future John c14 v2 and by putting: God’s powerful, loving, Holy Spirit in us now, the kingdom of Heaven in us now. Luke c17 v21, ,
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	Much of Satan’s, & his underling demons’, activity is mindless interference & disruption: Demons are, primarily, destructive. Hence they tend to isolate themselves from the web of: truth, constructiveness, rightness, etc. Hence they end up each having: the legalistic conviction they are always right and the mad attitude they are each God.
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		MORE KINGDOMS
		The animal kingdom is a pyramid. And we are flesh, like animals. But, unlike animals, we are also eternal. And this has put us at the top of the animal-kingdom pyramid. We are the apex predators. We then built our world: on nature, out of nature, hence the world is a pyramid, human society is a pyramid, and the kingdom of the world and the kingdom of demons are two pyramids meshed together.
		In contrast: the kingdom of God, in Heaven, and the kingdom of God, on Earth, are two upside-down pyramids meshed together. During this Church Age, the Creator: who is the most powerful of all, is at the foot, at the points: as servant of all, supporting everything.
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		The three upright pyramids: nature the world & demons, are about: power and authority. The two upside-down pyramids: the kingdom of God in Heaven & the kingdom of God on Earth, are about: power and love.
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		Currently, in this Church Age, God is the way he is: Partly because he is, at heart, only loving/good/constructive. John c14 v9-11: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. KJV Partly because he has to deal with the wicked, as well as the righteous. , , Perhaps see later section: , , JESUS’ USE OF THE WORDS ‘RIGHTEOUS’ AND ‘WICKED’. ,,,,, , , Perhaps see later section: , , IT’S BECAUSE OF US THAT GOD IS THREE PERSONS,,,,,
		Currently, in this Church Age, we are the way we are: Partly because of our spirits(cores). Partly because of the way God designed the material of the universe. God designed the material of the universe, hence nature: hence the flesh & souls of animals & hence the flesh & souls of humans , (though not the spirits(cores) of humans) to have concentric circles of selfishness: inner circle an animal you midway circle related animals your family/friends outer circle pack/flock/herd your group/nation/bloc. , Perhaps see later webpage: The design of everything , and , later section: THE ORIGINS OF: PAIN & PLEASURE AND FEAR & ATTRACTION., , , ,
		Hence many of us would find it difficult to do what God currently does: be the most powerful yet also serve. , , N.B. God only ever does what he wants to do. Indeed, many of us find it difficult to even imagine: that God is the most powerful yet also a servant. Matt c20 v25-28 (Mark c10 v42-45): But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; and whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. KJV Matt c18 v1-4 Matt c23 v11-12 Mark c9 v35,,, Mark c10 v42-44 Luke c9 v46-48 Luke c22 v24-27: ,,, The greatest in the kingdom of Heaven: is the ‘least’, is the one who serves others the most. my abbreviation
		, The Christian meaning of serving: , is not: – do whatever people tell you to do, , give them whatever they want, , but: – do whatever’s right for them , (hopefully right will mean good-&-right), , naturally or miraculously, as needed. , Or, to put it another way: never serve people, serve only God. , That’s how to serve people. , Perhaps also see fifth cell , (starting Praying for good things for your enemies) , of later section: LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.
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