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The two ways God sorts us:
Judgment & Forgiveness.
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JESUS PREACHED BOTH
JUDGMENT & FORGIVENESS
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JUDGMENT TO COME
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BELIEF GOD FORGAVE
US ALL
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Without mentioning Forgiveness,
Jesus said the following:
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Without mentioning Judgment,
Jesus said the following:
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God will accept or reject
any of us
according to
what we have done.
He’ll let no-one off
of anything.
We earn our way into Heaven.
Heaven is a reward.
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God will accept or reject
any of us
according to
our belief in Jesus.
He’ll let believers off
of everything.
We are freely let into Heaven.
Heaven is not a reward.
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God will, in the end, choose
only those who, in this life,
humbly did good & not bad.
This is regardless of
their religion or lack of it.
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God will, in the end, choose
only those who, in this life,
believed God Forgave us all.
This is regardless of
the good or bad they’ve done.
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SCRIPTURES THAT SUPPORT
THE ABOVE STATEMENTS
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SCRIPTURES FOR
JUDGMENT:
WE NEED ONLY DO GOOD
TO GET INTO HEAVEN
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SCRIPTURES FOR
FORGIVENESS:
WE NEED ONLY BELIEVE
TO GET INTO HEAVEN
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Matt c13 v24-30 &
v36-50:
Everyone who does good
goes to Heaven.
Everyone who does bad
goes to Hell. my abbreviation
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John c3 v14-18 &
v36:
Everyone who believes in Jesus
goes to Heaven.
Everyone who doesn’t
goes to Hell. my abbreviation
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Matt c7 v15-23:
Beware of wolves in sheep’s
clothing: whose fruit is bad;
who, actually, are bad fruit trees.
They are full of themselves
& boast even of miracles.
They are trees that will be
cut down & burned in the fire.
my abbreviation
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John c5 v24:
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
He that heareth my word, and
believeth on him that sent me,
hath everlasting life,
and shall not come into
condemnation; but is passed
from death unto life. KJV
(Also read v22-23.)
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Matt c25 v31-46:
Helping the needy
leads to eternal life.
Ignoring the needy
leads to eternal punishment.
my abbreviation
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John c6 v40:
And this is the will of him that
sent me, that every one which
seeth the Son, and believeth
on him, may have everlasting
life: and I will raise him up
at the last day. KJV
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John c5 v28-29:
Marvel not at this:
for the hour is coming,
in the which
all that are in the graves
shall hear his voice,
and shall come forth;
they that have done good,
unto the resurrection of life;
and they that have done evil,
unto the resurrection
of damnation. KJV
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John c11 v25-26:
Jesus said unto her, I am the
resurrection, and the life:
he that believeth in me,
though he were dead,
yet shall he live:
and whosoever liveth
and believeth in me
shall never die.
Believest thou this? KJV
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Rev c20:
We will be Judged according to
what we have done. my abbn
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John c6 v47:
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
He that believeth on me
hath everlasting life. KJV
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FORGIVE US AS
WE …
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Matt c18 v23-35: my abbn
Jesus said “A king cancelled
a servant’s giant, unpayable,
debt. But that servant then
showed no mercy to a fellow
servant who owed him
a small, yet unpayable, debt.
So the king imprisoned
the first servant
until he paid his giant debt.
That’s how God
will treat you
unless you forgive others
from your heart.” my abbn
Matt c6 v12 (Luke c11 v4):
And forgive us our debts,
as we forgive
our debtors. KJV
Luke c6 v37:
Judge not, and ye shall
not be judged:
condemn not, and ye shall
not be condemned:
forgive, and ye shall be
forgiven: KJV
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WHY IS THE ABOVE
IN THIS JUDGMENT COLUMN?
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Answer: because the concept:
‘God
Forgives us
as we forgive others’
is conditional Forgiveness
which is nonsense.
Forgiveness means
letting someone off, for free;
without them having
to do anything.
So the concept:
‘God Forgives us
as we forgive others’
is, actually, Judgment.
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John c20 v31:
But these are written,
that ye might believe that Jesus
is the Christ, the Son of God;
and that believing
ye might have life
through his name. KJV
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Luke c7 v36-50:
A sinful woman had her
many sins Forgiven
by faith alone. my abbn
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Luke c15 v1-10:
We are: God’s lost sheep,
God’s lost coins. my abbn
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Luke c23 v40-43:
Jesus promised paradise
to only the repentant
criminal. my abbn
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Luke c15 v11-32: my abbreviation
God is like a father
who loved his two sons.
One son asked for his
inheritance in advance
but then wasted it all
on wild, immoral, living.
Hungry, he returned home
to apologise deeply. But his
father’s very warm welcome
drowned out his apologising.
The other son, although his
inheritance was still intact,
was angry at his father’s
welcome for his brother.
His father tried to reassure him:
told him that he loved them
both, equally, unconditionally.
But the son wouldn’t have it,
didn’t understand such love,
saw only that he should be
loved, not his brother.
His isolation from
his father & brother
had become vivid. my
abbn
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SOME CHRISTIANS MAY COMPLAIN ABOUT
THE ABOVE LEFT COLUMN
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Some Christians may complain:
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“Surely,
all scriptures in the above left column
should be in the above right
column.
Surely, Jesus never said:
“Do good in order to get yourself into
Heaven”.”
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But I say:
“The scriptures in the above left
column
tell of our actions
without any mention of:
belief in Jesus,
the crucifixion,
God’s Forgiveness,
etc.
So the scriptures in the above left column:
cannot define a Christian,
cannot be about Forgiveness,
must be about Judgment.
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Nor
is there the possibility of hidden messages:
Jesus was not speaking to
believers or the learned.
He was speaking to mixed
crowds
that included farmers,
fishermen, etc.
Farmers and fishermen are as
important as anyone.
So Jesus had to speak
plainly:
to the heart, but plainly.
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To
conclude: as well as preaching:
getting to Heaven by believing in him,
Jesus also preached:
getting to Heaven by doing good.
Mind you, it’s humbly
doing good,
not proudly doing good.”
,, ,, More about motives in the next section.
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Some Christians may say:
“Surely,
John c14 v6:
Jesus saith unto
him,
I am the way, the
truth, and the life:
no man cometh
unto the Father, but by me. KJV
also means:
you cannot get
yourself to Heaven
(by doing good,
or being pure, or both).”
But I say:
“The scriptures at the top
of this webpage
show that there are two
ways:
that God sorts us:
for Heaven
or Hell.
1) Judgment
2) Forgiveness.
But it is true that there’s
only one way:
to the Father himself,
to be adopted by him,
for him to become
your Father,
for you to become
his child,
& for you to
receive his Holy Spirit.
And that one way
is:
2) Forgiveness.
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All
who get to Heaven by Judgment
will then soon want Forgiveness as well
(even though they didn’t
need it to get there
& don’t need it to stay there).
They’ll want
Forgiveness as well
because:
o the Fatherhood
of God
o and the Holy
Spirit
come only with Forgiveness,
not with
Judgment.
,, ,, ,, ,, It’s true that you won’t need the Holy
Spirit to help you not sin
,, ,, ,, ,, (for there’ll be no pressure to commit natual sins
,, ,, ,, ,, and God will only have chosen those
,, ,, ,, ,, who won’t commit spiritual sins).
,, ,, ,, ,, But you’ll need the Holy Spirit
,, ,, ,, ,, as an add-on memory capacity.
,, ,, ,, ,, See last row cells
,, ,, ,, ,, of earlier section: SOME TECHNICAL
DEFINITIONS. ,,,,,
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To conclude:
a) Going to the Father
is not the same as
b) going to Heaven
a) includes b),
b) does not include a).
By ‘Heaven’, I mean ‘Heaven or New Earth’.
Perhaps see earlier section: Sometimes the Bible
says. ,,,,,
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I repeat the concept of this section
in the form of the last section of this webpage.
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REGARDING JUDGMENT:
GOD ALSO CONSIDERS MOTIVES
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Regarding Forgiveness:
God does not need to
consider motives.
It shows you
are already humble, to the extreme,
to forever put your own
righteousness to one side
and forever boast of only
Jesus’ work, for you, on the Cross.
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But regarding Judgment:
God considers motives.
Admittedly, sometimes
Jesus says that God will
Judge us
according to only our actions:
John c5 v28-29:
Marvel not at
this:
for the hour is
coming, in the which
all that are in
the graves
shall hear his
voice, and shall come forth;
they that
have done good,
unto the
resurrection of life;
and they
that have done evil,
unto the
resurrection of damnation.
KJV
, There are more such
references in the left column
, of earlier section:
SCRIPTURES THAT
SUPPORT THE ABOVE STATEMENTS.
But, at other times,
Jesus adds that God will
take great notice of our motives,
of why we did those
actions:
Matt c6 – c7:
Don’t be like those who are unlike God:
‘religious’, all for show,
hypocrites, slow to forgive;
interested, actually, in only
the things of this life;
keen to Judge people’s
errors;
picturing God according to
their own standards (mean
& limited);
producing nothing good. my abbreviation
Matt c23 v1-34:
[Jesus said] Don’t be like those
who are unlike
God:
burdening
others with laws
but
offering no help to keep them;
‘religious’, all for show,
hypocrites;
conceited, self-serving;
not going into the kingdom of
Heaven themselves
and stopping others from going in;
materially possessive;
praying only for show;
worthy of Hell;
oblivious to God & his heart
& his will;
white on the
outside
but like a rotting corpse on the
inside;
posing as Godly
but, actually,
are enemies of the Godly. my abbn
, See:
, C.S.
Lewis on What It’s Like to Meet a Truly Humble Person
, and:
, Screwtape on Humility., , , ,
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Motives are in the mind.
And
not, as you might suppose, in the emotions.
(Emotions are mere tools of the
mind.
Perhaps see later webpage: The emotions.),,,,,
In unbelievers:
good and bad
genes
culture
education
upbringing
environment
circumstances
influences from
people
temptations from
demons
encouragements from God
mould the mind
which contains motives.
Whereas, in believers:
the
good heart/spirit
& the
indwelling good Holy Spirit
mould the mind
which contains motives.
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In the world:
Some discouraging non-biblical sayings
such as:
“He meant well. (Shame it all went wrong.)”
“The road to Hell is paved with good
intentions.”
“Etc.”
all seem right to us.
But that’s only because we
notice outcomes
more than we notice motives.
God notices motives
more than he notices
outcomes.
God’s
vision is on full zoom
as far as motives are
concerned.
See: 1 Cor c13 NIV. ,,,,,
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If God wanted outcomes
he can do his own outcomes.
Matt
c3 v9 (Luke c3 v8):
and think not to say
within yourselves,
We
have Abraham to our father:
for I say unto you, that
God is able
of these stones
to
raise up children unto Abraham.
KJV
,, ,, ,, See context. Matt c3 & Luke c3 v1-22 , , .
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This place is not about outcomes.
, See third cell
(starting This place is merely
temporary)
, of earlier section: WHY IS THE UNIVERSE
SECOND CLASS?.
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THERE IS NO THIRD
WAY
THAT GOD SORTS US
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It may seem
that there’s a third way
that God sorts us for Heaven or Hell.
It may seem that there’s not only:
1) Judgment.
and:
2) Forgiveness.
but also:
3) Those who feel at home here
stay here.
Hence, for them, this
place, one day,
becomes Hell.
&:
Those who don’t feel at
home here
don’t stay here.
And the only place they
can go
is Heaven.
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But the truth is that:
not feeling at home here
is just another way of viewing:
Judgment and Forgiveness.
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Judgment:
If an unbeliever’s life
is a life of humbly earning your
way to Heaven,
then giving away time/money/effort
will make you feel, materially,
not at home here.
While you are humbly doing good you probably don’t think about
the reward of going to Heaven.
You probably just do it out of self-expression.
Hence, when you go to Heaven, it will be a surprise reward.
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Forgiveness:
When believers give away resources . .
Luke c14 v33: Indeed, perhaps see all of Luke c14.
So likewise, whosoever he be of you
that forsaketh
not all that he hath,
he cannot be my
disciple. KJV
. . God replenishes them.
Matt c6 v33 (Luke c12 v31):
But seek ye first the
kingdom of God,
and his
righteousness;
and all these things
shall be added unto
you. KJV
, , Perhaps see all of: Matt c6 v24-34.
However (unlike unbelievers) believers suffer persecution.
And that would make you feel not at home here materially.
Mark c10 v29-30 (Luke c18 v29-30):
And Jesus answered
and said,
Verily I say unto
you,
There is no man
that hath left house, or brethren,
or sisters, or father, or
mother, or wife, or children,
or lands, for my sake, and
the gospel's,
but he shall receive an
hundredfold now in this time,
houses, and brethren, and
sisters, and mothers,
and children, and lands,
with persecutions;
and in the world to come
eternal life. KJV
, God will reward all
believers who were persecuted;
, though later, in Heaven, not here. Matt c5 v10-12 Luke c6 v22-23, , , ,
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Also,
becoming a Christian:
Not only brings you persecution
so that you don’t feel
at home here materially.
It also means you change
so that you don’t feel at home here materially.
Your heart/spirit changes your soul:
so that you find doing
good,
especially doing
miraculous good,
something you want to do,
prefer to do,
even more than earthly
pleasures,
even right earthly
pleasures.
John c12
v25:
He
that loveth his life shall lose it;
and he that hateth his
life in this world
shall keep it unto life
eternal. KJV
1 John c2 v15-17:
Love not the world,
neither the things that
are in the world.
If any man love the
world,
the love of the Father
is not in him.
For all that is in the
world,
the lust of the
flesh,*
and the lust of the
eyes,
and the pride of
life,
is not of the Father,
but is of the world.
And the world passeth
away,
and the lust thereof: **
but he that doeth the
will of God
abideth for ever. KJV
, *Lust is sex with everything else, notably love, missing.
, , (High sexual appetite is not the same as
lust.)
, , **Notice it’s not:
, ,, , , , You
passeth away, the world continues.
, , It’s:
, ,, , , , The
world passeth away, you continue.
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EVENTUALLY,
FORGIVENESS WILL BE NEEDED
BY ALL.
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If someone is destined for Heaven
because of Forgiveness,
then they have God’s Spirit. Rom c8 v9
Hence, if they’ve also renewed their mind,
they can command miracles.
Perhaps
see earlier section:
WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER,,,,,
But, if someone is instead destined for Heaven
because of Judgment,
then they do not have God’s Spirit
and can do no miracles.
Perhaps see earlier webpage:
The two ways God sorts us: Judgment &
Forgiveness. ,,,,,
This shows that:
while Judgment can get you into Heaven,
that, once there, in order
to also function,
you’ll still need Forgiveness:
you’ll still need to repent of all your sins/wrongs,
you’ll still need to believe
that the Cross is God’s Forgiveness.
John c14 v6:
Jesus
saith unto him,
I am the way, the
truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the
Father, but by me. KJV
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