The origin
of angels & demons
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THE FIRST WAR
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I needed some thing
with a mind of its own,
that is someone else
when I pick up the phone,
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that wouldn’t just yield
or sit up and beg,
that would think and decide
on all that I said.
So I made lots of angels
to be as they chose:
some became friends
some became foes.
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The
bad angels sought
to topple my headship
with subtlety of lie
& one-sided gossip:
Though Heaven had order
they campaigned for law,
then
campaigned for peace
though they’d not yet caused
war.
Though Heaven had plenty
complained all they could,
then shrewdly complained
on behalf of the good.
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Their complaints were unfounded
but their feelings were real:
completely sincere,
a genuine zeal.
No truths in their hearts
for lies to grow on,
just truths as a skin
to shed when they’re done.
They hid from themselves
behind formality,
denied, first themselves,
then the rest of reality.
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Then
they arose
self-righteous & proud,
vicious, ungrateful,
mock-holy & loud.
Multi-armed swords
flashed clashed and grated
as two glowing armies
of angels were fated
to fight to the death
of eternal submission:
one mad with badness
one with God’s vision.
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The good, never yielding,
pushed the bad back,
to another dimension
a supernatural sack
where bad fought with bad
(more bad than sane)
until their bad spirits
were all that remained.
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Those
spirits, called demons,
would all things destroy.
But they can’t, so they us
for destruction employ.
They make us temptations
and offer vain powers.
So don’t bother sniffing
at Satan’s flowers.
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Satan is the leading demon.
But underling demons are also often referred to
as Satan or the devil.
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MAKING ANGELS
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When God made angels
he installed, in them, non-moral knowledge
(how to walk, talk, read, etc).
But he did not install moral knowledge:
whether to eventually become
completely constructive or
completely destructive.
They’d have to decide that for
themselves.
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God made angels such that they
already knew how to walk, talk, read, etc.
Like AI.
See earlier section: SELF-TEACHING
COMPUTERS.,,,,
He did it this way because it was quick:
He knew that they’d soon be
fighting each other
and he wanted the war to start
promptly, not be staggered.
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GOD:
THE CONSIDERATE DELEGATOR
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God gave, to the good angels,
the task of fighting the bad angels.
But that task was not as difficult as it sounds:
The bad angels had the advantage
of asymmetry:
They merely wanted to
mindlessly destroy.
Whereas God & the
good angels wanted to defend.
However, a bigger advantage soon
fell to the good angels:
The good angels wanted
to serve or be served,
whichever was needed.
But the bad angels
wanted to only be served.
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This
flexibility of the good angels
produced teamwork.
And teamwork is a big
military advantage.
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Indeed,
the good angels’ many virtues:
eagerness
to obey or to command,
common
sense, wisdom, understanding,
bravery,
industry, patience, etc,
and the
bad angels’ many vices:
indiscipline,
lack of
foresight, lack of thought,
cowardliness,
laziness, impatience, etc,
increased
the good angels’ advantage even more.
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SOME
TECHNICAL DEFINITIONS
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Angels
were made,
all at once,
by the factory method,
in a simple environment.
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Humans
are grown,
successively,
by the seed method,
in a complex environment.
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Good
angels:
Never did wrong.
And so never gained
personal knowledge
of wrong.
Bad angels (now demons):
Never did right.
And so never gained
personal knowledge
of right.
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humans:
Have each done
both right and wrong.
And so have each
gained
personal knowledge of
both right and wrong.
, Perhaps see later section:
, GOOD & BAD, RIGHT & WRONG
, and, immediately after it:
, EXAMPLES.
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Good
angels have already
fully changed themselves.
Bad angels have already
fully changed themselves.
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We humans
have not yet
fully changed ourselves.
Perhaps see later section:
HOWEVER, ON JUDGMENT DAY,
OUR HEARTS/SPIRITS
WILL CHANGE US QUICKLY.
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Good
angels
always do right,
never wrong.
So they never need
God’s Forgiveness.
Bad angels (now demons)
always do wrong,
never right.
But never want
God’s Forgiveness.
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All humans do right and wrong.
Hence God Forgave all of us
by way of Jesus being crucified
in place of all of us.
But do you want to discard
your own righteousness
so that you can, instead, have
the righteousness
that Jesus gave to all of us?
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Good
angels
never have God’s Spirit.
They don’t do God’s will
by doing miracles.
They use their arms and legs.
Bad angels (now demons)
never have God’s Spirit.
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Those
who believe in Jesus
have God’s Spirit forever.
Matt c28 v20 John c14 v18 Heb c13 v5
Jesus’ crucifixion in our place
and God’s Spirit inside us
makes ours an intimate rescue.
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Any being
(angel, demon, human, alien)
that does not have:
God’s Spirit.
Or at least a telepathic
connection with God.
has a finite
memory capacity
even though he/she is eternal.
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effect, God’s Spirit provides
(amongst other things)
a continuous, add-on,
memory capacity:
1 John c2 v20:
But ye have
an unction from the Holy One,
and ye know all things. KJV
This makes our lives, here,
and especially on new Earth,
better, more complex.
For new
Earth, see: Isa c65 v17
Isa c66 v22 2 Pet c3 v13 Rev c21 v1.
Perhaps again see later section:
GOOD & BAD, RIGHT & WRONG. , ,
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DESTROYING
EACH OTHER
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God
has set things up so that a dimension is
a set of Indivisible Factors
that interact:
With each other.
But not, automatically,
with the Indivisible Factors
of another dimension.
Hence, we can’t go wandering into
Heaven
and nothing in Heaven can
automatically come here.
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God made the Second Dimension
by pushing the bad angels
out of his presence
and into the Second Dimension.
See
third & fourth cells (starting I
say)
of later section: THIRD COMPLAINT.
Then, in this Second Dimension:
The bad angels could reach
each other
but could not reach God or
the good angels.
Hence the bad angels started
destroying each other.
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They
prioritised destroying:
their opponents’
ability to fight back,
their opponents’ physically
interactive abilities.
So their opponents’ non-physically
interactive abilities
ended up
not being destroyed.
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Hence
the bad angels all ended up:
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losing:
retaining:
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physical form, strength, touch, etc:
abilities that can, of themselves, destroy
visual form, a mind, emotions, a voice, sight, etc:
abilities that cannot, of
themselves, destroy.
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Hence
they became insubstantial,
mere spirits(ghosts)
of the bad angels they once were,
mere demons.
(Angels don’t become corpses
and spirit(ghosts).
They simply downgrade, become
demons.)
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So
the only things demons can do now,
without us doing their
bidding,
without our assistance,
are:
o see
o be
seen Be seen by our spirit(cores), the ‘eyes of the heart’.
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choose, by our eyes, natural sight.
o speak Speak
telepathically.
o hear Telepathically,
or acoustically,
, , (though they’re
not able to read minds).
, , Perhaps see big later section: TELEPATHY.,,,,,
o think With their minds.
o feel With their
emotions.
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THE
FORM OF
HUMANS’ & ANGELS’ BODIES
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Our
human form is shaped by:
o Gravity pulling us
down onto a flat surface.
o Our
need for: locomotion, respiration, digestion,
reproduction, sexual
attraction.
o Our
need for: fingers (& therefore arms),
forward vision,
hearing, & perhaps smell.
o The
effect our eternal nature has on our bodies
(e.g. grunts becoming
words).
, Perhaps see fourth cell (starting: I
reckon the real Adam(s)) to the end of
, earlier section: TREAT THE BIBLICAL ADAM & EVE AS REAL.
o Etc.
(So I suspect that aliens have a similar layout
to us.)
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The Father made Jesus’ resurrected body able
to eat Luke c24 v43,
and Jesus says we will eat with him
in Heaven (or on the new Earth). Luke c22 v30,
But, will our bodies also excrete,
also have fully functioning intestines?
No. The idea of sewage works in Heaven
(or on the new Earth)
is too un-heavenly.
So, whether:
We are functionally similar
to aliens
or not.
The Son suffered on other
planets too John c10 v16,,,,,
or not.
There’ll be one new Earth
and many other, different,
new planets
or not.
our future form, humanoid or not, will be:
purely cosmetic,
not humanoid (or whatever) out of necessity.
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Good angels,
having none of the physical & biological needs that we have,
have a default form that’s
cosmetic;
substantial, but cosmetic:
Good angels change their
form,
from humanoid to alienoid,
according to whether they
are speaking to
humans or aliens.
Therefore, when God made
angels,
he gave them all the ability
to change form.
,, ,, This is a
weak, introductory argument
,, ,, for good
angels being able to change form.
,, ,, The proper
argument is in the fourth cell
,, ,, (starting Hence, during the fighting:)
,, ,, of next
section: THE FLOOD: Gen c6 – c8.
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God
gave the ability to change form
early on,
to all angels:
even to the angels who later
became
bad angels, then demons.
God never takes back, from beings,
what he has promised or given
(it’s a time-travel thing).
, , See first
three cells
, of later section: WHY
GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER,,,
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, , later section: COMMANDS THAT INVOLVE THIS SECOND DIMENSION. ,,,
So, even bad angels,
and therefore even demons,
can change form.
Hence (treating the Bible account as
true):
Satan, while he was
still a bad angel,
before he became a
demon,
actually
became a snake for a while. Gen c3 v1-5
, N.B. In the KJV even natural snakes are called
serpents.
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Good angels each take the right form:
Perhaps see later section: GOOD & BAD, RIGHT & WRONG.
Whatever
form God wants them to take;
currently, here, for our
sakes, it’s humanoid.
Bad angels, now demons, each take the wrong
form:
The easiest form –
invisible.
Or, if it’s worth the
effort,
visible, but light-absorbent
black.
Or, if it’s worth the
effort,
visible, and frightening.
(Though, of course, whatever
their form,
demons are, in themselves,
insubstantial.)
I assume God set a size
limit, for all angels,
when he made them.
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Demonic:
temptations,
torments (unnecessary fears
& worries),
scary visions, demons taking
on a scary visible form, etc,
are all verbal &/or
visual structures.
, Perhaps see later
section: NOT ONLY WORDS,
Demons, being
fundamentally destructive,
find constructing
the above
(or any
creativity or originality)
painfully hard.
Much harder than
you or I would find it.
So a demon will
construct
a
temptation/torment/vision
only if he
reckons that constructing it
will be
outweighed by
the destruction it will cause.
Once he’s built a
temptation/torment/vision
he finds
repeating it
much less painful
than designing new ones.
Hence demons are
repetitious,
and this repetitiveness can give them away,
as
can their conspicuous timing.
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, For what to actually do about temptations
, see later section: ANOTHER EXAMPLE: TEMPTATIONS.
, And the links within it.
, (This link does not open a new tab.) , , .
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THE FLOOD:
Gen c6 – c8
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Perhaps see: Gen c6 – c8, about the flood,
for context to this section.
You may find this section,
and indeed the Bible’s flood account itself,
to be rather fanciful.
But bear with me.
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If the first war had been won by the bad angels:
Then their winning would
have ended
with them destroying each
others’ bodies
(i.e. turning each other
into demons)
inside Heaven.
Then that’s all there’d be:
a Heaven with only demons in
it.
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But, instead, the good angels won.
And their winning ended
with them pushing the bad
angels:
out of the First Dimension,
Heaven,
and into the Second
Dimension.
, Perhaps again see third &
fourth cells (starting I
say)
, of later section: THIRD COMPLAINT.
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All
angels can change their form.
Perhaps see previous
section:
THE FORM OF HUMANS’ & ANGELS’
BODIES. ,,,,,
Hence, during the fighting:
The good angels:
Healed their own
wounds (constructive)
in order to fight
(destructive)
in order to
enable God to
continue
constructing unhindered (constructive)
because they knew
that all this would lead to
more structure in
the end (constructive).
Conversely, the bad angels
and the demons (the spirits
of the ‘dead’ bad angels):
Struggled to heal
their own wounds.
Wanted to be
purely destructive.
Wanted to fight
rather than fix.
Indeed, both armies:
Weren’t just ‘the
way they were’.
Weren’t just
obeying orders.
They wanted to do what they did.
It was
self-expression.
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God
made the Second Dimension
by pushing the bad angels
out of his presence
and into the Second Dimension.
Perhaps
again see third & fourth cells (starting I
say)
of later section: THIRD COMPLAINT.
Then God immediately made the universe
(of which we became part)
also in the Second Dimension.
The bad angels,
as soon as they were pushed
out of Heaven,
would have continued to destroy each others’ bodies.
But they couldn’t
because they immediately
found themselves
in the big bang:
mixed in with this rapidly
expanding universe,
being rapidly separated from
each other.
, , Perhaps see item 1) of earlier section: MY ATTITUDE
TO THE BIBLE , ,
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, earlier section: EVOLUTION: THE SCIENTIFICALLY ELEGANT SOLUTION. , ,
So the bad angels wouldn’t
be able to destroy each other
for some time yet.
, Perhaps see earlier section: DESTROYING EACH OTHER, , , ,
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Later,
when planets & life formed,
whatever the bad angels
might be attracted to,
so as to destroy,
would be bringing them
closer to each other.
If the attractive thing
turned out to be:
something less
satisfying to destroy
than destroying
each other,
or:
something that
would take
only a short time
to destroy,
then they’d turn on each
other
instead of, or after,
destroying the less
satisfying thing.
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The
bad angels were attracted by the movement of animals.
But they’d find that
animals, like things,
offered little or no
resistance.
So they were easy &
unsatisfying to destroy.
, Perhaps see earlier section:
BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT ANIMALS LACK
A SPIRIT(CORE).
Often, having destroyed the
animals,
there’d often be groups of
two or more bad angels
left facing each other.
It’s then that they’d fight
each other.
This resulted in an ever
decreasing number
of bad angel winners
and an ever increasing
number
of demon losers.
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The
bad angel winners eventually found humans:
speaking humans,
eternal beings, like
themselves.
They found us to be:
more satisfying
to try to destroy,
more practicable
to try to destroy,
than animals or things.
Especially if it was a
society that:
o Was
religious (though not with the real God).
, Not with the real God – so that
the bad angels themselves
, would be idolised.
o Had an enduring social structure
so that, even
though they were damaging it,
it was
self-repairing.
Hence the bad angel winners
became humanoid,
, Perhaps see earlier section: THE FORM OF HUMANS’ & ANGELS’
BODIES
joined those societies,
then set about destroying
them.
Yet those societies remained
un-destroyed.
Quite a meal.
, Perhaps again see
, earlier section: BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT ANIMALS LACK
A SPIRIT(CORE). , , , ,
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One intuitive
form of destroying
was for the bad angel winners to become humanoid
then physically pollute humanity.
The bad angels married women
(Married? No harm in
respectability.)
who
produced human children, all male,
who grew up to be giants. Gen c6 v1-4
Male: because males lead
(certainly at that time & place).
Giants: so that they would
be idolised, like their fathers.
The first generations of
giants would be
the biggest & worst
behaved.
Their high IQ and capacity
for knowledge
(due to their large brain
size)
would have been greatly
reduced
by their inherent hatred
of social structure,
knowledge, constructive thinking, etc.
Subsequent generations of giants who married
would increasingly normalise as their genes diluted.
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Going back to the early generations of giants:
The
bad behaviour of:
a. the bad angels
b. their sons, the giants,
and the bad behaviour of:
c. surrounding humanity
(behaviour
encouraged by a. & b.),
inspired God to kill
everyone with a flood.
Everyone, that is, except
Noah and his family.
, God randomly chose to be kind to Noah. Gen c6 v8
, Mind you, Noah was a very good man anyway. Gen c6 v9 Gen c7 v1 , , , , .
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Neither Noah nor his sons were
giants.
So they possessed no giants’
genes.
Yet giants continued to
exist after the Flood.
Deut c3 v11 2 Sam c21 v15-22 (1 Chron c20 v5-8)
This shows that not all the
giants drowned.
This shows that
the Flood was not worldwide
but local:
It seemed
worldwide, to its participants.
But
actually it was local.
,, ,, ,, ,, ,, It was low-lying, but God could have seruptitiously
,, ,, ,, ,, ,, shored up the
water at the edges, as in: Exo c14. ,,,
, , , , I thought of this before I found the following YouTube video..
, , , , YouTube: – Noah’s
Flood: Global or Regional?.,,,,,
,, ,, ,, ,, ,, Jesus spoke as if the flood were true, even if it were
,, ,, ,, ,, ,, only local. Matt c24 v37-39 Luke c17 v26-27 ,,,
Today, there are no giants
at all:
This shows that
giants stopped being conceived
&/or born
&/or growing
to maturity.
Or, more
probably,
they were conceived,
born, & grew to maturity,
but their genes
were increasingly diluted
by the
wider population.
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The Flood was local because:
bad angels, their giant
sons,
and the humans they all
lived with,
were local:
Before the Flood:
the bad angels wanted to be with
religious (though not with
the real God) people
who needed to be near
religious (with
the real God) people.
The bad angels
wanted to be near Noah & family
because nearness
of
the real God and his worshippers
encourages humans
who do not know God
to idolise
someone or something.
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Before the Flood:
The bad angels stayed in the above location &
situation
in order to:
Not fight each
other, retain their bodies,
not become
demons.
Change their
bodies to humanoid.
Marry women and
produce giant sons. Gen c6 v1-4,,
Be idolised
(thanks to the nearness of Noah).
But their offspring, the
giants, as they normalised:
Had fewer reasons
for staying there.
So, at least some
of them, left the locality
and survived the
Flood. 1 Sam c17 v1-7,,,,,
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During
the Flood:
The humanoid bad angels:
could change back to being
non-humanoid
&/or could fly (though they may tend to get
lost)
&/or did not need to breathe air.
Hence they would not have drowned.
However, they suddenly found
themselves
without living human
company.
So they thought all humans had drowned,
thought the flood had been
worldwide.
So, while in the water,
they fought, &
destroyed, each other;
became demons.
, I’ve since found out that ministers
call these demons “marine spirits”
, and, surprise surprise,
they encourage destructive lust more than other sins.
, Perhaps see: YouTube: – Free
from marine spirits
, and spiritual
husband. Liverpool Revival Miracle Meeting.,,,,,
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The
last man standing principle meant
that
Satan was the last bad
angel.
But even he, eventually,
destroyed his own body,
become a demon.
Hence he was able to be
inside Judas. Luke c22 v3 John c13 v27 , ,
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As for lack of archaeological evidence for all the
above,
I reckon that:
Bad angels:
o Didn’t make
anything themselves.
o Tended to destroy things that were given
to them
to spite the people
who’d made them.
o Left no corpses.
(Angels don’t
become corpses and spirits(ghosts).
They simply downgrade,
become demons.)
Giants:
Left corpses, big
ground-floor rooms,
big chairs, big armour, etc.
But, after they’d died,
those things would’ve been
destroyed:
o Because
of the items’ freakish, frightening, appearance.
o Because the giants had few virtues,
were unattractive
inside,
were respected only in
life, not in death.
o Out of revenge, by relatives & friends
of their victims.
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Don’t worry about giants’ genes
remaining in the human gene pool:
Materially, carnally, temporarily,
in this life:
giants’ genes
have become very diluted
and so are now of
negligible material consequence.
Spiritually,
eternally:
giants’ genes never were of any
consequence.
, See later section: YOU INHERIT THE QUALITIES
BUT NOT THE PREVIOUS CHANGES,
, and perhaps the two sections before it.
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HOW
DEMONS ARE ABLE TO DO THINGS
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Demons telepathically encourage us to believe:
the potency of
our
sicknesses/problems/wrong ways/etc
that we see
more than we believe:
the potency of
Jesus’ self-sacrifice in our
place
that we don’t see.
Even an illness, problem, negative behaviour, etc:
that’s not demonic,
that’s completely natural,
would still attract demons:
They would verbally
encourage you to:
keep your
attention on the natural
instead of on God
and on his love & ability to fix,
encourage you to:
add
fear/vanity/self-pity/depression/short temper
to the problem,
so that you:
o Stay not believing.
o Or, if you do believe,
add
unbelief, to your belief.
, Perhaps see later
section: UNBELIEF and its
subsections.
o Even make you accept your illness.
All in the hope that
you’ll be entertaining:
Full of
self-pity, selfish anger, (selfish anything).
Full of fight instead
of faith
so that you don’t
trigger the miraculous.
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If you have been miraculously healed
then, whether you are:
a believer,
an unbeliever,
or a ‘believer’,
, , I write people who don’t (yet) believe all
Jesus said,
, , who are not
(yet) believers, but think they are,
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‘believers’.
I’ve
found that a demon can, probably with great
effort,
put back the symptoms you
used to have.
Though only the symptoms.
But if you then:
believe in your spirit(core), that the Almighty succeeded
but doubt in your mind,
think that the Almighty failed,
then the demon, with little effort,
will put back the whole
illness.
Or, if you believe that the
demon is greater than God,
or even that God
doesn’t exist, that only the demon exists,
then the demon will, with ease,
put back the whole illness.
, How can demons physically do
things? I explain shortly.
(This rolling over
& giving in
is the opposite of:
Jam c4 v7:
ctd
… Resist the
devil, and he will flee from you. KJV)
Or, a
demon may suggest some natural
explanation
for your miraculous healing:
that’s agreeable,
particularly to you,
that you would
believe instead of believing that
God healed you,
so that you don’t go to God
again.
Or,
if you believe wrong
religious teaching:
o that God is unloving or weak,
o or that God has not Forgiven all human sins
past present
& future,
o or that God is doing you bad
in order to do
you good,
then the demon will:
deliver your expectations,
work on God’s
behalf anonymously,
ensure that your
faith is rewarded,
and that God gets
all the credit.
, See last three cells (starting Our account with the Father)
, of later section: THE TWO ACCOUNTS.
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Using their own imagination
is a constructive thing for a demon to do.
Hence it’s difficult & painful for them.
Hence they tend to imitate the things of the world
and even the things of God. Though
always to wrong effect.
Exo c7 v7 – c8 v17:
Some of the things Moses
& Aaron did
Pharaoh’s magicians then did
(even
though it was against
their own interests). my abbn
Matt c24 v24 (Mark c13 v22):
For
there shall arise false Christs,
and false prophets,
and shall shew great signs
and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible,
they shall deceive the very
elect. KJV
For clarification of this verse
see later section: TRICKS & MIRACLES, ,
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But
how can demons act in physical ways
(as compared to verbal ways)?
How can they, for example, cause sickness?
Biblically, Jesus usually healed people of natural sicknesses.
It’s not often that Jesus healed people of sickness
that was caused by demons.
I can find only three instances.
1) Luke c13 v16:
And
ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham,
whom Satan hath bound, lo,
these eighteen years,
be
loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
KJV
2) Matt c9 v32-33:
Jesus healed
a man of dumbness
by casting out a demon from
him. my abbreviation
3) Matt c12 v22 Luke c11 v14:
Jesus healed
a man of blindness & dumbness
by casting out a demon from
him. my abbreviation
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When demons do cause
sickness,
I reckon they’re helped by the design of this place:
Sickness is one of the many bad
aspects
that God has already designed into this place.
, Perhaps see later
webpage: The design of everything.
Also, God
would have made the particles that make up:
himself, his Spirit,
& his Son,
and
angels & demons,
of similar size etc
to the particles we are made of
for the sake of interaction &
communication.
,, Mind you, demons’ destructiveness
,, has made them mesh-able.
,, Hence many demons can fit into one human.
,, ,, ,, Mark c5 v1-13 Luke c8 v26-33:
,, ,, ,, A legion of demons fit into one man. my abbn
,, Whereas an angel, in this dimension & this realm,
,, would bump into a human if he tried that.
However, demons actually cause
sickness because:
When God made angels, he gave them all:
1) Natural power (we also have this).
2) Supernatural power (we don’t have this).
3) No authority:
Hence, every time
they wanted to use either power,
particularly
their supernatural power,
they needed God’s
authority to do so.
Authority = Someone giving you, or denying you,
permission to do it.
Letting
you, or stopping you, do it.
Power = You, quite separately,
possessing
the ability to do it.
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God
never takes back, from beings,
what he has promised or given
(it’s a time-travel thing).
See first
three cells
of later section: WHY
GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER,,,
and
later section: COMMANDS THAT INVOLVE THIS SECOND DIMENSION. ,,,
So, God never took back, from angels:
1) natural power,
2) supernatural power.
So, when the bad angels destroyed each others’ bodies:
Perhaps see earlier section: DESTROYING EACH OTHER. ,,,
They destroyed their own:
1) natural power
so that they now have only:
2) supernatural power.
But they still need:
3) God’s authority
to use that:
2) supernatural power;
authority that God will
never give.
, Perhaps again see first three cells
, of later section: WHY
GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER. , , , , ,
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We
humans, though eternal, are part of the earth.
We humans were
given:
authority over the Earth – the only authority we have,
authority to use our natural power
– the only power we have.
Gen
c1 v28:
And God blessed them, and God said unto them,
Be fruitful, and
multiply, and replenish the earth,
and subdue it:
and have dominion over
the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of
the air,
and over every living
thing
that moveth upon the earth. KJV
Natural authority & natural power
are the only authority & power we have in this life.
(Unless, of course, you are a Christian
in which case you also have God’s powerful Holy Spirit.)
And demons already have
supernatural power.
So, if we give them our authority
to use their supernatural power –
then they can supernaturally
do things.
Mark c5 v1-10
Luke c8 v26-31:
A large number of demons, all in
one man,
broke any chains &
manacles used to bind him. my
abbn
Acts c16 v16-18:
Paul cast a spirit
out of a girl
that had enabled
her to tell the future. my abbreviation
Acts c19 v13-16:
A demon, within a man,
overpowered seven men.
my abbreviation
, Perhaps see later section: DEMON POSSESSION, , .
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Hence,
if you want to do wrong:
here in this natural world
but by supernatural means,
and don’t mind being symbiotically allied with a demon
Symbiotic =
mutually parasitic.
(Many natural creatural relationships are symbiotic.)
then the demon will do the supernatural wrong
that you & the demon both want:
1) Demons
outlive humans.
So one human’s
‘legitimate’ hatred of another human
could include his/her
descendants.
Hence such a hatred
could authorise a demon
to ‘legitimately’ carry
out that hatred: a curse.
, , , Perhaps see later webpage: Demons love laws.
Then, after the person
dies,
the demon could act
against the victim’s descendants.
Hence, in Mark c9 v14-27
(Matt c17 v14-18),
a child has a demon.
2) Exo c7 v8-12:
Satan
&/or his underling demons
were behind Pharaoh’s magicians’ ability
to turn sticks into snakes. my abbreviation
, , , Perhaps also see later section: TRICKS &
MIRACLES.
To conclude:
Demons already have
supernatural power.
So, all they need, to
actually do things, is human
authority.
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God
never takes back, from beings,
what he has promised or given
(it’s a time-travel thing).
See first
three cells
of later section: WHY
GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER,,,
and
later section: COMMANDS THAT INVOLVE THIS SECOND DIMENSION. ,,,
Hence God never takes back
the authority he gave us.
But authority, without power, means nothing:
So, as soon as we die
as soon as we lose our
natural power over the earth
(the only power we have)
then our authority over the earth
(the only authority we have)
becomes meaningless.
Natural
authority & natural power
are the only authority &
power we have in this life.
(Unless, of course, you are
a Christian
in which case you also have
God’s powerful Holy Spirit.)
Authority = Someone giving you, or denying you,
permission to do it.
Letting
you, or stopping you, do it.
Power = You, quite separately,
possessing
the ability to do it.
Hence human spirits(ghosts), on their own, can do nothing,
can only speak.
Hence, in 1 Sam c28,
the living witch of Endor
had:
her own God-given natural authority
plus a demon’s supernatural
power
so she was able to raise
Samuel’s ‘sleeping’ spirit(ghost)
from the dead.
And Samuel, being ‘asleep’
in death,
could not stop her progress.
However, once raised, a
prophet’s words still have power.
1 Sam c28:
The spirit(ghost)
of the prophet Samuel,
awoken by a witch,
gave one last, damning,
prophesy to king Saul. my abbn
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Mind
you, I suspect that an ‘awake’ spirit(ghost)
can physically do things
by combining:
a living human’s
authority
over the material
world
with:
that human’s
fear, awe, etc:
of a
demon (that they’re unaware of)
&
of
the spirit(ghost) (that they are aware
of)
with:
that demon’s
supernatural power.
This assumes the demon agrees with the spirit(ghost)
as to what’s to be done.
Such activity is stopped by:
a living
human,
who believes
& has no unbelief,
commanding it to stop, in
Jesus’ name.
,, ,, This cell is as much from personal experience as biblical
& logical deduction.
,, ,, See seventeenth cell, (starting: In
2005, sixteen years) of earlier section:
,, ,, SUPERNATRUAL EVENTS THAT CONTRIBUTED
TO THIS SITE..
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Regarding:
Exo c7 v8-12:
Satan &/or his underling demons
were behind Pharaoh’s magicians’ ability
to turn sticks into snakes. my abbreviation
you & a demon may not want to
turn sticks into snakes:
You may want God’s voice to
be muffled for you
and for things to go to plan
as you commit adultery.
And the demon will do those
things for you.
But the demon may also do some other bad thing to you
as part of the deal.
He’d have mentioned it when
you didn’t care what he said,
e.g. when your excitement at
the prospect of adultery
was at its highest.
Think of it as dealing with
a legalistic criminal.
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But,
whether a demon
causes
strife/expense/illness/etc in your life
or ‘merely’ wastes your
time:
Symbiotically
allying with a demon
will always be
something you eventually regret.
Eventually you
will cease coming back
to do business
with him.
, Symbiotic =
mutually parasitic.
, (Many natural creatural relationships are
symbiotic.)
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So, there are
occasions when a demon directly
causes an illness.
Perhaps see two cells (starting But
how can demons act)
earlier in this section.
But there are also occasions when a demon merely
keeps a natural illness in place:
Mark Hemans,
, Perhaps see eighth
cell (starting Mark Hemans)
, of earlier section: ABOUT
BIBLICAL TEACHER-HEALERS GENERALLY,
, and some of Mark’s
many YouTube links that follow that.
, (This link does not open a new tab.)
Smith
Wigglesworth,
, Perhaps see twenty-second cell (starting Smith Wigglesworth, 1859-1947)
, of earlier section: ABOUT BIBLICAL
TEACHER-HEALERS GENERALLY.
and
many other biblical teacher-healers on that webpage:
see
many sicknesses
as defended by,
even caused by, demons.
Hence such
healers first cast out the demon
then God is able to, easily & immediately,
heal the sickness.
We all have demons hanging around us,
speaking to us whenever they want to.
Perhaps see later section: ANOTHER EXAMPLE:
TEMPTATIONS.
Even Jesus had Satan, the leading demon,
hanging around him, talking to him, more than once.
Perhaps
see sixth cell (starting A demon will keep)
of earlier section: KNOW YOUR ENEMY.
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How
does a demon keep a natural illness in place?
The patient is eager to be healed,
But God is very very very eager to heal
(if the Cross is anything to
go by).
However, the patient has a
sinful way/activity that they like:
They dislike the
sickness
more than they like the sinning.
But the sinning
has become
an entrenched
habit. 2
Cor c10 v3-5,,,
Hence the patient has a
demon hanging around
and that demon verbally
encourages the sinning:
by providing the
patient with strategy & excuses
to give
himself/herself for sinning.
The demon speaks phrases
that the person:
thinks are their
own
&/or soon
adopts as their own.
“You’re right to not forgive
him/her (and be bitter & angry).”
“You’re right to feel sorry
for yourself (and be loveless).”
“The others have hurt you
(so hurt them back).”
“(There is no God, so) do
what you want.”
It’s all carnal, worldly,
‘logic’
that comes with an emotional
buzz & sensual satisfaction.
All of which keeps you
coming back for more.
The demon has tricked the
patient into welcoming him.
The patient and the demon
now have a symbiotic
relationship.
, Symbiotic = mutually
parasitic.
, (Many natural creatural relationships are symbiotic.)
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It’s not
that:
The demon is able
to stop the Almighty from healing.
It’s that:
God has given
everyone free will
and the patient wants the demon
to hang around
& speak
and the demon is
repellent to God
and all parties
know it
(though you might
not).
Hence, if someone:
who has a demon
hanging around them,
speaking to them,
nevertheless agrees for a believer to:
cast
the demon away/out
, See later
section: DEMON POSSESSION to see why
I write ‘away/out’.
even if it’s only
temporarily
, (temporarily
– for the patient could invite the
demon back in)
then,
as soon as the demon’s gone,
God can heal.
It would bring
instant relief, and insight,
such that the patient is less likely
to welcome the
demon back into their life
and, instead, more likely to cling to
God.
,, ,, ,, ,, ‘Less likely’ depending on how much they suffered,
,, ,, ,, ,, how glad they are that the demon’s gone.
,, ,, ,, ,, A minister might even refrain
,, ,, ,, ,, (or be told by God to refrain)
,, ,, ,, ,, from casting out a demon
,, ,, ,, ,, because the patient’s not ready for it yet.
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SATAN LIKES IT
HERE
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Satan, the leading demon, likes it here:
Where structures are
fragile,
more easily broken than
built.
And concentric circles of
selfishness
are built into every
creature.
, Perhaps see later section:
, IN WHAT WAYS DID GOD MAKE THE UNIVERSE SECOND CLASS? , ,
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And Satan likes us –
like a cat likes to play with a mouse:
If demons encouraged us to
actually kill each other
it would cut short their new
lives here.
So, instead, demons
encourage limited destructiveness,
sustainable if possible,
with self-interest as the
excuse they give us
to give ourselves.
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Our
fragility restricts demons’
choice of temptations:
from .
. “destroy each other”
to . . .
. “be
selfish”.
But half a loaf is better than none.
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Satan likes it that:
We are made of the
same material as animals.
Yet we are eternal.
Hence:
we added: justice
to: the
law of the jungle
to make it: the
ways of the world.
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And Satan
likes the way that:
earth is what God gave us
but world is what we made of
it.
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And Satan likes the
way that:
lack of teamwork
comes with competition,
and opportunity to interfere
comes with teamwork.
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Satan finds great
self-expression here
for someone without a body.
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Perhaps see:
, later section: WE ARE PLAYGROUNDS
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, first four cells of
later section: THE BASIC MECHANICES
, and
, later section: ANOTHER EXAMPLE:
TEMPTATIONS. , , , ,
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PYRAMIDS
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THE
KINGDOM OF THE WORLD
& THE KINGDOM OF DEMONS
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The world:
o Likes
human heroes, not God.
o Likes to own what it’s earned,
not hear that there’s a
God who says:
“It’s all mine.
But I want to be generous towards you.”
o Does not like being told what to do, even
by God.
o Does not like being forgiven, even by God:
Would prefer to earn such forgiveness
if such forgiveness
were needed.
Human justice sells the news,
not God’s forgiveness.
God is not welcome in the world.
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As for demons:
The kingdom of the world
and the kingdom of demons
are two pyramids meshed
together.
Our life is their life.
They are our parasites.
, Perhaps see previous section:
, SATAN
LIKES IT HERE. , , , , ,
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The first humans, Adam & Eve,
chose to turn away from:
their, now hidden, maker
who, fundamentally, is
loving,
and turn towards:
their own wisdom – built on
the seen world,
and an evil advisor.
, Perhaps see earlier section:
, THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE GARDEN OF EDEN.
Every generation repeats that choice, that mistake.
, Perhaps see later section: THE
FIRST SIN.
We
each gave our world to Satan,
our authority over it to
Satan.
He may say very
little.
But we, so often, do what he
says.
, (For most Christians it’s actually just some underling demon
, but we say Satan or the devil.
, For Jesus it really was Satan.)
That’s
why Satan was able to offer the
world to Jesus
in what would have been a
bad deal.
Luke c4 v5-7 (Matt c4 v8-9):
And
the devil, taking him up into an high mountain,
shewed
unto him all the kingdoms of the world
in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him,
All this power will I
give thee, and the glory of them:
for that is delivered
unto me;
and to whomsoever I
will I give it.
If thou therefore wilt
worship me,
all shall be thine. KJV
Jesus
refused Satan’s offer.
But Jesus could not undo
us having given the world to
Satan in the first place.
However, Jesus did what he
could do:
For
those who believe in him
he overcame the
world John c16 v33
by giving us:
Heaven
in the future John c14 v2
and by putting:
God’s
powerful, loving, Holy Spirit in us now,
the kingdom of Heaven in us now. Luke c17 v21,
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Much of Satan’s, & his underling demons’,
activity
is mindless interference & disruption:
Demons are,
primarily, destructive.
Hence they tend to isolate
themselves
from the web of:
truth,
constructiveness,
rightness,
etc.
Hence they end up each
having:
the legalistic conviction
they are always right
and the mad
attitude they are each God.
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MORE KINGDOMS
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The animal kingdom
is a pyramid.
And we are flesh, like animals.
But, unlike animals, we are also eternal.
And this has put us at the top of the animal-kingdom pyramid.
We are the apex predators.
We then built our world:
on nature,
out of nature,
hence the world is a
pyramid,
human society is a pyramid,
and
the kingdom of the world
and the kingdom of demons
are two pyramids meshed
together.
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In contrast:
the kingdom of God, in Heaven,
and the kingdom of God, on Earth,
are two:
upside-down
pyramids
meshed together.
During
this Church Age,
the Creator:
who
is the most powerful of all,
is at the foot of
the two,
at the apex of
the two:
as
servant of all,
supporting
everything.
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So, the three upright pyramids:
nature
the world
& demons,
are about:
power
and authority.
Whereas the two upside-down pyramids:
the kingdom of God in Heaven
and the kingdom of God on Earth,
are about:
power
and love.
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Currently, in this Church Age,
God is the way he is:
Partly because he is, at
heart,
only
loving/good/constructive.
John c14 v9-11:
Jesus
saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known
me, Philip?
he
that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
and how sayest
thou then,
Shew us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in
the Father,
and the Father in me?
the
words that I speak unto you
I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Believe me that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me:
or else believe me for the
very works' sake. KJV
Partly because
he has to deal with the
wicked, as well as the righteous.
, , Perhaps see
later section:
, , JESUS’ USE OF THE
WORDS ‘RIGHTEOUS’ AND ‘WICKED’. ,,,,,
, , Perhaps see
later section:
, , IT’S BECAUSE OF US THAT GOD IS THREE PERSONS,,,,,
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Currently, in this Church Age,
we are the way we are:
Partly because of our spirits(cores).
Partly because of the way
God designed
the material of the
universe.
God designed
the material of the universe, hence of nature:
& hence the flesh & souls
of animals
& hence the flesh &
souls of humans
, (though not the spirits(cores) of humans)
to have concentric
circles of selfishness:
inner circle an animal you
midway circle related animals your family/friends
outer circle pack/flock/herd your group/nation/bloc.
, Perhaps see later webpage: The design of everything
, and
, later section: THE ORIGINS OF: PAIN & PLEASURE
AND
FEAR & ATTRACTION., , , ,
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Hence
many of us would find it difficult
to do what God currently
does:
be the most
powerful
yet also serve.
, , , , N.B. God only
ever does what he wants to do.
Indeed, many of us find it
difficult to even imagine:
that God is the
most powerful
yet is also a
servant.
Matt c20 v25-28 (Mark c10 v42-45):
But
Jesus called them unto him, and said,
Ye know that the
princes of the Gentiles
exercise dominion over
them,
and
they that are great exercise authority upon them.
But it shall not be so
among you:
but whosoever will be great among you,
let him be
your minister;
and whosoever
will be chief among you,
let him be
your servant:
even as the
Son of man came
not to be
ministered unto, but to minister,
and to give
his life a ransom for many. KJV
Matt c18 v1-4 Matt c23 v11-12 Mark c9 v35,,,
Luke c9 v46-48 Luke c22 v24-27: ,,,
The
greatest in the kingdom of Heaven:
is the ‘least’,
is the one who serves others
the most. my
abbreviation
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, The Christian meaning of serving:
, is not:
– do whatever people tell you to do,
, give them
whatever they want,
, but: –
do whatever’s right for them
, (hopefully right
will mean good-&-right),
, naturally
or miraculously, as needed.
, Or, to put it
another way: never serve people, serve only God.
, That’s
how to serve people.
, Perhaps also see fifth
cell
, (starting Praying for good
things for your enemies)
, of later section: LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.
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