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INTRODUCTION
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If you want to learn how Christianity works
then read through the, long
list of webpages
on the home page.
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But, if you want to
learn how to do Christianity,
then choose one of the dozen or so biblical
teacher-healers
on this webpage (that’s what I call them anyway)
and follow their teaching.
The teacher I
recommend the most is Andrew Wommack’s
(first on this webpage).
Andrew’s site,
YouTubes, & books, teach you
how to miraculously heal yourself & others.
A close second is Mark
Hemans:,,
who extends from a third to half
way down
this webpage.
I’ve also made two overflow webpages
of my paraphrased notes of some
of his preaching
because, in my opinion,
(like Smith Wigglesworth)
Mark’s more of a talker than a
writer.
If you are ill now,
especially terminally ill,
then consider going to one of Mark Hemans’ meetings:
He tours globally (though some
countries
are more restrictive than
others)
so he may be coming to your
country.
Or, go to one of his online zoom
meetings.
As Andrew says, the purpose of
ministries like Mark’s
is that you may not have time
to learn to heal yourself.
If you’re not ill, or if your healing is not urgent,
then you’d do well to learn Andrew’s teachings:
For example, see Andrew’s all-in-one
teaching:
YouTube:
– Andrew Wommack
,, If
You Need Healing You watch this video
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will help-you. ,,,
Andrew’s my personal
favourite mainly because:
He teaches by subject.
This led him to write articles
& books by subject.
All of which make Andrew’s teaching
more compatible with my
philosophical work
(more compatible than other
biblical teacher-healers’
teachings).
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I reckon
that the differences between
Andrew Wommack and Mark Hemans
are as follows.
Andrew Wommack (& Dan Mohler, & other ‘Bapticostals’)
have the right concept:
Jesus, on the
Cross,
took all human sins: past
present & future.
So sins do not
exist any more:
not sins, not our wrongs towards
God.
Though our wrongs towards each
other still remain.
Perhaps
see: THE
TWO ACCOUNTS. ,,,
So we believers
stop doing wrong:
Out of gratitude.
Out of the gospel activating
our hearts
and our hearts then renewing
our minds
to be like Jesus’ mind.
Whereas Mark Hemans, & other Pentecostals,
have the wrong concept:
Jesus himself got
rid of all sins, of all humans.
God has made all of us right
with himself. (True)
,, ,, (But do you believe
it? And do you want it?)
But we can still
sin, not wrong but sin,
can still make ourselves
(temporarily)
not right with God. (False)
Also see my notes in:
YouTube
– Spiritual sight and praying for the sick. ,,,
Andrew Wommack (& Dan Mohler, & other ‘Bapticostals’)
have a complex modus operandi:
One should have
belief:
faith = belief acting,
but should not have unbelief:
no doubts, in the mind,
due to medical
knowledge etc.
Mark Hemans (& other Pentecostals)
have a simpler modus operandi:
God always knows
more than we do
and always knows best.
So, however knowledgeable you
are,
even in the things of God,
simply listen to God’s Spirit
and obey him.
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Over the years Andrew
Wommack established two sites
(like this site, Andrew’s sites work better on a PC
than on a smartphone).
His first site is Andrew
Wommack Ministries (awmi).
His second site is Andrew
Wommack Ministries Europe (awme).
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His first site
includes:
Teaching
Articles: ,, ,, (all subjects:
written, condensed).
Audio
Teachings: ,, ,, (all subjects: audio).
Healing
Testimonies: ,, (some
subjects: videos, very encouraging,
,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, works
best/only on PC or laptop).
Event
Video Archives: ,, (some subjects: videos).
Bible
Commentaries: ,, (mostly New
Testament: written).
All TV Archives: ,, ,, ,, (all
subjects: easy watching, videos).
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Andrew has put many of
his audio teachings
into book and e-book form:
I particularly recommend his book:
A better way to pray.
I also recommend his books:
Insights into faith.
God wants you well.
You’ve already got it.
The believer’s authority.
Reading his,
relatively brief Teaching
Articles ,,,
is a good way to see, generally, what he’s about.
It’s also a good way to see
which Audio
Teachings
(all free) to listen to
or which books to buy.
(I’ve listened to all
of his audio teachings.)
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Andrew teaches how to
command a healing, in Jesus’ name,
so as to heal yourself and others.
You may say:
The kingdom of Heaven is built on love,
not selfishness.
So healing yourself is wrong.
I say:
The kingdom of God is built on:
God’s love – for all of us.
Not our love – for each other.
So: you – healing yourself
(or rather: God’s Spirit in you – healing you)
is right.
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I do not agree with absolutely everything Andrew says . .
1) I
disagree with Andrew, and many other Christians,
on the subject of homosexuality:
Hear Andrew’s view on
homosexuality in:
AW's
Audio Teachings /
,, Christian
Philosophy /
,, Homosexuality.
Read my view on homosexuality
in:
MORE
ON HOMOSEXUALITY
and its two subsections
and the links within
them.
(This link does not
open a new tab.)
and,
immediately after it:
GOD’S
WORDS ON SIN
and the links within
it.
(This link does not
open a new tab.)
2) Andrew
is right as to who
Jesus is
(only begotten Son of God)
but wrong as to what Jesus is
(he says Jesus was created).
THE WORDS THAT THE FATHER CONTRIBUTED
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THE CONCEPTION OF JESUS. ,,,
And he made a similar error
regarding the origin of humans.
CREATING
MATTER, BUT MAKING HUMANS.
3) Unlike Andrew Wommack, and indeed
many Christians,
I do not think that all non-Christians go to Hell.
I wrote the
webpage:
The
two ways God sorts us:
,, Judgment & Forgiveness , , ,
and the ten
webpages after it
to address this matter.
4) I
disagree with Andrew in:
GOD’S SPIRIT GROANING,,,
and:
I DIFFER FROM ANDREW WOMMACK
,, AS TO WHY
JESUS GROANED. ,,,
Mind you, I’d have nothing to write
if he hadn’t introduced me
to this, rarely taught, subject.
5) I
disagree with Andrew, though only technically, in:
Why I sometimes use the word ‘Punishment’
,, instead of ‘crucifixion’. ,,,
When Andrew says that our healing is
in the past
he is wrong from a technical point of view.
But, from a practical point of view, he is right.
6) Jesus
said, regarding his parable of the soils:
Matt c13 v3-8
& v19-23,,,
and
Mark c4 v3-8
& v14-20,,,
and
Luke c8 v4-15,,,
that if you can’t understand this
parable,
you won’t understand any
parable. Mark c4 v13
Andrew concluded that Jesus must have
said this
because it is a fundamental parable.
See Andrew’s two, written
(& audio), teachings:
It Begins with a Sure Foundation,,,
and:
God’s
Word – The Seed Of His Blessing,,,
But I reckon that Jesus said this
because it’s a straightforward parable.
7) Andrew
is subjective regarding our spirit, soul & body
whereas I am more objective,
even diagrammatic.
. . but,
so strongly do I
approve of
the rest of Andrew’s teaching
that I have zero passion for disagreeing with him.
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Conversely, Andrew,
and indeed many Christians,
may have grave misgivings about my thinking
(the long list of
webpages on the home page):
o I do
not think
that only Christians go to Heaven.
Perhaps see point 2),
previous cell.
o I am not only
biblical.
I am also logical, even
scientific.
Perhaps see: MY
ATTITUDE TO THE BIBLE. ,,,
Whereas all the
Christians on this webpage
are purely biblical.
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Within
dispensationalism (Wiki
Dispensationalism)
is the doctrine of cessationism
(Wiki Cessationism).
Cessationism is a giant doctrine
‘supported’ by only two verses:
1 Cor c13 v8 & v10.
These were written by Paul, not spoken by Jesus.
See
part 2) of: MY
ATTITUDE TO THE BIBLE. ,,,
However, v9-13:
‘but when perfection comes’
and ‘When I was a child’
and ‘glass, darkly,
obviously:
don’t say that gifts of healing etc
will cease in this life,
but do say that they will cease
in Heaven [because they won’t be needed].
Hence cessationism may well be due, mostly, to observation:
We don’t see miracles today
so God must have banned himself
from doing them.
Which is on the same level as saying:
We don’t see God
so he doesn’t exist.
Consider: 2 Cor c5 v7 (see: 2 Cor c5 v1-7)
See the two cells
(starting But the problem these days),,,
of: BAPTIZED IN GOD’S
SPIRIT LATER?
and the links
within them.
(This link does not open up a
new tab.)
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A complete, or even
partial, belief in cessationism:
Not only leaves people sick etc.
It also leads to Christians who
don’t heal
accusing Christians who do heal
of demonic work.
Matt c24
v24 (Mark c13 v22):
For
there shall arise
false Christs, and false
prophets,
and shall shew great signs and
wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible,
they shall deceive the very
elect. KJV
(The irony is that the accusing
Christians
may well be living such a
squeaky clean life
that they are well placed
to fully host the Holy Spirit,
and ‘step aside’,
and so do miracles with ease.
If only they’d believe that they should do so.)
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I too believe the
above warning, about false Christs:
See third cell (starting Using their own imagination)
of HOW DEMONS ARE ABLE
TO DO THINGS.
But, I also believe
Jesus
when he said that we, in his name,
can do miracles.
‘Do’
is the verb used in the KJV. (Though
see Acts c3 v12 & v16.)
See: WHY
GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER,,,
and the links within it.
(This link does not open up a
new tab.)
See the two cells
(starting But the problem these days)
of: BAPTIZED IN GOD’S
SPIRIT LATER?.
See: TRICKS
& MIRACLES.
and the
links within it.
(This link does not open up a
new tab.)
See: Gospel leaflet and Christian healing leaflet.,,,,,
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Some people ‘accuse’
Andrew of being a word of faith man.
I.E. If you say it, with faith,
& no unbelief,
and it’s in accordance with the
Bible,
then God will do what you say.
And he is, indeed, ‘guilty’ of this (as am I).
However, the only reason word of faith can be wrong
is that, on its own, it is a human
in charge of God.
However, Andrew (& I, & many)
also believe in:
God’s overall leadership.
His guidance – overruling any
carnal thoughts
that we may still have, or that
may arise.
His kingship.
and that that changes everything;
changes ‘word of faith’ from a vice to a virtue.
Jesus told his disciples to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers,
raise the dead, cast out devils. Matt c10 v8,,,,,
His disciples (& later, as apostles) did as he told them
(and when they failed, asked him for correction).
God: on top.
Disciples / apostles / other
believers: in the middle.
Sickness / death / demons: at
the bottom.
That’s the power structure.
Remove the top layer and you are indeed
as proud and conceited as Satan & demons.
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KNOWLEDGE: SO
WHAT
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My material
(the long list of webpages on the home page)
is stuff you can merely know, in your mind.
But knowledge, on its own, is inadequate:
Paul, though he
himself was an intellectual, Acts c26 v24,
wrote that we need more than just intellect &
knowledge:
1 Cor c8 v1 and
1 Cor c13:
Any moral quality,
without love,
equals nothing. my abbreviation
,, ,, ,, [charity is old English for love]
Peter, too, wrote
that we need more than knowledge:
2 Pet c1
v5-8:
Make every effort to have
faith, goodness,
knowledge, self-control, perseverance, godliness,
brotherly kindness, and love. my abbreviation
And, finally, Paul
wrote:
1 Cor c2 v5:
ctd … your faith should not
stand
in the wisdom of
men,
but
in the power of God. KJV
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As for the activity of
thinking:
It usually takes
too long, and is unnecessary,
for you to compute a situation
to know what to do.
It’s quicker, simpler, and more
reliable,
to listen to, and to obey, God’s
Spirit.
Just
believe, and renew your mind.
Mind you, thinking can
be of value after the event:
for analysis of the event
and for studying Christianity
generally.
Perhaps see: STUDYING AND DOING.
Perhaps see: THINKING
TOOLS THAT I USED. ,,, ,,,
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ABOUT ANDREW
WOMMACK
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Andrew (and indeed everyone else on this webpage)
is a biblical teacher-healer,
as compared to a biblical preacher-healer.
A biblical
preacher-healer:
preaches & heals
rather than:
preaches & teaches
& heals.
(My uses of
the words ‘preach’ and ‘teach’ are biblical.)
Perhaps
see:
What’s the Difference Between
,, , , , Preaching
and Teaching?
,, , , , By Andrew Wilson | Monday 13
May 2013. . . .
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Andrew has read
little else other than the Bible.
Hence he, and
most/all others on this webpage,
have little scientific knowledge.
This works to
their advantage.
Scientific
knowledge (e.g. medical knowledge):
in the mind, next to
the mind’s belief,
given significance alongside the mind’s belief,
so that it counteracts the mind’s belief,
constitutes:
unbelief,
and unbelief hinders the
miraculous.
Perhaps see: UNBELIEF and its subsections.
However, if, like me,
it’s too late for you,
if, like me, you already have
scientific knowledge,
then add, to that knowledge, belief:
Belief that the Creator is also
the Constructor.
Hence he must build, fix, love.
And indeed, has loved,
has loved us,
by way of his Son having
suffered in our place,
putting us right with his Father
so that we can have his powerful
Holy Spirit.
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Andrew is neither a grace teacher
nor a faith teacher.
He is a grace through faith
teacher.
Eph
c2 v8:
For
by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves:
it is the gift of God: KJV
Perhaps see Andrew’s
short written article
Living in the balance of grace & faith.
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Andrew describes himself as a Bapticostal.
I think it’s a good description.
He seems to have cherry-picked:
the rigid biblical & lifestyle
discipline of the Baptists
(a denomination he was brought up
with
who lack miraculous healing)
and:
the expectation of miracles of the
Pentecostals
(who experience miraculous healing
but sometimes fail in personal
discipline & biblical study).
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Andrew’s style is:
o Thorough. Comprehensive.
But sometimes slow.
Even repetitive if he feels he’s
not got his point across.
Hence you may prefer his books
& written teachings
to his speaking.
o Logical
rather than emotional,
passion hidden (so, more
British?).
Andrew lacks political correctness and earthly theatre.
So he tells what’s wrong in our lives, and how to fix it,
even if he offends.
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ABOUT BIBLICAL TEACHER-HEALERS
GENERALLY
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As well as Andrew
Wommack I’ve got a dozen or so other
biblical teacher-healers on this webpage.
As I wrote earlier, I recommend:
Andrew Wommack’s teachings the
most
and Mark Hemans’ a close second
(find Mark a quarter
the way down this webpage).
I currently recommend Dan
Mohler’s third.
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Dan Mohler is a
popular speaker
but he prefers to speak to small, attentive, audiences.
He doesn’t record many
of his teachings
so his website, Neck Ministries, is pretty bare.
But his audiences put up lots of YouTube videos
of him teaching, and he’s fine with that.
(Last I heard he
didn’t even have a mobile phone.
Yet he’s one of the most switched-on people I’ve seen.)
In the following list
I include some of Todd White’s miracles.
(Dan led Todd to the Lord
and they taught together for a while.)
I include God doing miracles through Todd
but not Todd’s teaching. He’s more
passionate than
intelligent – which distracts you from
the, otherwise probably good, points
that he’s making.
My comments under the links.
YouTube:
– The Gospel, straight up, no additives
Teaching & testimonies. Vital.
YouTube:
– Best description of the Gospel - Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies. Vital.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - How to Pray
Teaching & testimonies. Vital.
YouTube: – What believing the gospel
,, really
means - Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies (half
an hour). Vital.
YouTube: – The Sinful Nature -
Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies. Vital.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - Free from Guilt, Shame,
,, and
Condemnation
Teaching & testimonies. For you – perhaps vital.
YouTube:
– Healing, the bible’s way…legit… - Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies. For you – perhaps vital.
YouTube:
– Why Didn't it Work - Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Why do only some get healed?
Teaching & testimonies.
God’s Spirit
answered this question for Dan, with:
“Be a steward, have
integrity,
have true faithfulness
to the New Covenant,
because this gospel is
for the sold-out,
the surrendered, the completely dead
[this refers to the
healer, not to the patient].”
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - How to Resist the Devil
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Meeting God - Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Tips of the Trade - Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube: – Dan Mohler - how to put off the
old man
,, & put on the new man
Teaching & testimonies (half
an hour).
YouTube: – Dan Mohler - getting rid of selfcentred thinking
Teaching & testimonies. Good stuff.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler on Fear
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler & Todd White -
,, Is
God in control of everything?
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Satan’s Strategy Dan Mohler
Teaching.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - Why does it seem harder
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receive healing for myself than others?
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - Impartation. Is it scriptural?
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - Dating and marriage
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - Manifestation.
,, Some
have a lot. Some have none. Why?
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler and Todd White -
,, Praying
with the Right Heart & Thinking
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Excuses and Contending- Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Repentance, it's simple... -Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube: – Dan Mohler - first demonic experience
Teaching & testimonies. Good stuff.
YouTube: – Knowing Your Authority
,, &
Staying in Faith by Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube: – Strongholds and Deliverance Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Todd White – Reading their Mail
Miracles.
YouTube:
– Todd White – Healing on the Streets
Miracles.
YouTube:
– Todd White – More Healing on the Streets
Miracles.
YouTube:
– Todd White – Radical Healing of Ears
,, in
Jesus’ Name
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Todd White – He was in unbelief of healing ..
,, Watch
as Jesus shows up!
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Powerful Miracle at Fire16
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Todd White’s story
Todd’s testimony &
background.
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Here are three of
Dan’s longer teachings:
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - HC - Faith is a perspective -
,, 1
January 2016
Teaching & testimonies.
and:
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - HC - Faith is a perspective -
,, 2 January 2016
Teaching & testimonies.
And, if you want
more:
YouTube:
– OUTSTANDING MESSAGE!!!
,, WOW WOW
WOW!! TRANSFORMING!
Teaching & testimonies.
And, a shorter
teaching, repeated from earlier:
YouTube:
– What believing the gospel
,, really means - Dan Mohler
Teaching & testimonies (half
an hour). Vital.
The above four teachings
propose a new, fourth, phase to Christianity.
A phase that, actually, is a return to
the biblical phase, the original phase:
1) Original
phase: I am a servant:
I,
and God’s Spirit in me,
do
natural & miraculous good.
Matt c13 v44-46
2) Oldish
phase: I am a servant:
I
do natural good.
3) Recent
phase: I am a consumer:
God
does miraculously good
to
me.
4) New
phase: I am a servant:
I,
and God’s Spirit in me,
do
natural & miraculous good.
Matt c13 v44-46
Andrew Wommack, too, teaches this
fourth, new, phase:
in ch13 & ch14 of his book A Better Way To Pray
and elsewhere.
Likewise Bill
Johnson teaches that God has given much
to believers, but as tools, to do
miraculus good, to serve.
YouTube:
– Bringing Heaven to Earth.
My conclusion:
God does indeed bless
believers. John c10 v7-10
But he also gives believers power
to naturally, and miraculously, serve others.
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Here are some more of Dan’s long, but good, teachings:
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler - Knowing the Father
Teaching & testimonies.
He addresses much that’s
wrong
with most Christians’ lives:
gives a picture of how it should
be.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler – The Power of Fasting
Teaching & testimonies.
Some good,
practical, stuff, later on, in this teaching.
YouTube:
– Dan Mohler 2016 The Power of Love
,, WOW WOW
WOW!!!
Teaching & testimonies.
Getting free from yourself, free to love.
(This was at Andrew Wommack’s Charis Bible College.)
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Here are Dan’s & Todd’s websites:
Lifestyle
Christianity (Todd White’s website)
Perhaps click
on the Events tab or Power & Love tabs.
Lifestyle
Christianity Church
Teaching & testimonies.
Neck Ministries: Dan Mohler’s
website
Teaching & testimonies.
I listened to all the teachings on
Dan’s website.
Unfortunately Dan seems to have
had a clearout
including the 19 I recommend.
However, they can still be found at:
New Covenant NEW CREATION New Life
,, Dan
Mohler - Older teachings - Mix
To play the file:
click anywhere on the
bar.
To download the file:
click on the black ♪ symbol at the end of the bar.
My comments (or Dan’s) in white.
FFH 7-28-2009
- The Truth that sets you free
Encouraging testimonies peppered
with teaching.
Establish
Your Heart
Snapping our chains that
stop answered prayers.
Faith
Revealed
Practical, educational, breakdown
of how faith works.
Intimacy With
God - 3-2008 (Part 1 of 2)
Practical teaching – ends with
educational testimony.
Intimacy With
God - 3-2008 (Part 2 of 2)
Happy Dan - encouraging us to get
alone with God.
It's
Relationship, Not a Method - 4-10-2008 (Part 1 of 2)
Relationship or method, faith or
medicines: consider.
It's
Relationship, Not a Method - 4-10-2008 (Part 2 of 2)
Relationship or method, faith or
medicines: consider.
LCF - 3-12-2009
Visit the healer, or know
God and become a healer.
LCF - 4-2-2009 (Particularly
29m 28s – 38m 20s)
Five mins
chatter, then it’s: belief & love, not effort.
LCF - 4-3-2008 (Particularly 41m 0s – 1h 2m 40s.)
Spiritual manifestations
without the loony-ness.
LCF
- 7-17-2008
Commanding healing, much
teaching.
LCF
on return from Miss - 1-2009
Love is the only motive,
great testimonies.
Lords
and Ladies
How religion stops people
being miraculously healed.
Loving
Them Back To God 2-2008
How to deal with marital
betrayal & suchlike.
Mulliken's - 6-19-2008
Baptism
Remain an open channel for
God,
also, why water baptism is
vital.
Our
Created Value
God, not
me/problem/fear-centred-life, and praying.
Straight
Shooting (Gets
going 10mins in.)
Stay in God’s hand or stay
in fear,
your righteousness is
proportional to
God’s Lordship in your life.
The
Fence
Come boldly to God for his
help,
so it’s confidence, not
pride.
WV
Your relationship with God
renews your mind.
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Dan taught:
As God led him.
And, therefore, according to the
needs of his audience.
Hence Dan’s teachings are pretty subjectless.
Andrew, too, taught as God led him.
But, though he had been a pastor in the past,
his teachings he recorded in a studio.
Hence he had no audience.
Hence he was able to teach by subject.
This, later, lent itself to writing books on each subject.
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Dan’s style is:
o Sharp & fast.
o Passion shown.
Andrew’s style is:
o Thorough. Comprehensive.
But sometimes slow.
Even repetitive if he feels he’s
not got his point across.
Hence you may prefer his books
& written teachings
to his speaking.
o Logical
rather than emotional,
passion hidden (so, more
British?). ,,,
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Mark Hemans, Australian.
I like Australians.
Unlike other cultures,
even many non-Christian Australians
tend to be WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get),
i.e. they don’t have a side.
They also dislike unnecessary sophistication:
something that many of the rest of us like to hide behind.
Mark’s:
o The laying on of the foot
(like the laying on of hands).
o Having the prayer helpers wear workman’s hi-vis vests
with ONLY BELIVE printed on the
back.
o Anointing his prayer helpers John c7 v37-39,,,,,
so that they can do whatever he
does.
o Blowing the anointing through the
microphone.
o Etc.
are rather Australian I reckon
(thoughtlessly practical,
unselfconsciously cultureless).
Mark is a good biblical teacher-healer.
As far as I can tell, he uses the NKJV
so I’ve made all links to his Bible references NKJV.
I’d have more thoughts on his ministry
and more links to his material
but I only discovered Mark last of all, in August 2021.
o Pastor Chris
Oyakhilome, Pentecostal,
was the first biblical teacher-healer
I discovered.
(In 2008 I went to his first UK meeting).
o I discovered Andrew Wommack second,
just months later. Bapticostal is what Andrew
calls himself (good description
I reckon).
o I discovered all the other biblical
teacher-healers
since then.
o Mark Hemans last of all (2021).
I’m sure Mark is Pentecostal
but he ministers in any church
that invites him
including Roman Catholic.
I reckon God’s made me discover Mark last of all
because:
The way God’s Spirit works
through Mark
is so subjective & practical
that it’s hard to link, in any
way,
his teaching to this objective
site
(as compared to Andrew’s
teaching).
God’s Spirit told Mark to minister the
way he does.
Mark says that others should
listen
for the Holy Spirit’s
instructions, for them,
and never merely copy
another minister’s methods &
manner.
[I add: God is constructive, so he loves variety.]
See 7m 33s into:
YouTube:
– PRINCIPLES OF DELIVERANCE MINISTRY:
,, authority & power, divine
order, the Blood of Jesus.,,,,,
To the above, I add
that, if you want your ministry:
not so as to serve God &
people, Mark c10 v35-45,,,
but out of vanity, or for
power,
then it will come, at least
partly, from demons.
Mark is, or became, a people person.
He is also intelligent and keeps himself unworldly & humble.
Hence God works through him
and through whatever congregation he is with.
In my opinion he shows how Pentecostalism should be done.
When he anoints prayer helpers,
John c7 v37-39,,,,,
so that the anointing flows through them too,
I assume (perhaps wrongly)
that it’s merely a temporary anointing.
Like the anointing Jesus gave his disciples
in the gospels, as compared to in Acts.
Mark insists that people declare that
Jesus did their healing, not him.
The verb, ‘to do’, and phrasing,
that’s used in the KJV
shows that the Christian does a miracle.
But Mark’s way is more practical
because it ensures that people
do not see him as the answer.
They go away and seek God
to the degree that they feel
they lack anything.
Technically, we Christians can do miracles only because
Jesus put all of us right with his Father.
Hence his Father was able to become our Father too.
Hence, also, his Father was able to offer, to all of us,
his powerful Holy Spirit, on a permanent basis.
(Hence any Christian does
miraculous healing
only in Jesus’ name, often declaring as much.)
So, while Mark is wrong
technically,
he is right practically.
There’s no Wikipedia for Mark, yet,
so I’ve written the following:
Mark has two
degrees in theology
(though, with hindsight, he does
not value them:
dispensationalism, because it
includes cessationism,
nullifies faith for the
miraculous).
He
was a pastor for a while
before/after he was a missionary
in Paraguay.
Mark started his
first run of mission trips in 2004
as shown in his old website:
Encounter Ministries,,,,,
(click on Mission Trip
Reports).
In 2011 he stopped
his mission trips because he lost
his health, indeed lost
everything [demonic attack?]:
YouTube:
– WHO ARE YOU REALLY ON THE INSIDE?
,, The REAL YOU in Christ
,, is more important than
appearances ,
at 30s – 1m 50s.
Mark’s testimony:
YouTube:
– MY STORY: 9 YEARS BATTLE & VICTORY
over
STAGE 4 MELANOMA.
How faith and repentance brought
healing. ,,,,,
,, ,, (You may
also find the following two minute video useful.
,, ,, It explains
the the difference between prophesy and words of
knowledge.
,, ,, YouTube:
– Prophetic Word vs. Word of Knowledge
,,,, // Katia Adams // Vineyard
Insights.) ,,,,,
In 2016 Mark made
his new website:
Jesus
Encounter Ministries,,,,,
by building it on
top of, but not linked to,
his old website:
Encounter
Ministries,,,,,,
and started his mission trips
again,
but this time posting videos of
them on YouTube.
He now holds a pair
of mission trip meetings each week
(Friday & Saturday) in any
church or meeting hall
he’s invited to.
E.G. Over 3 weeks he does 3
towns/cities in one country
then moves to the next country,
and so on;
then back to Australia
to do some zoom meetings online.
Yes. Miracles still happen even through Zoom!
I.E. Even across the internet!
(I reckon it’s another Australian
example
of not overthinking something,
just doing it.
I’d have instantly dismissed the
idea as impossible
if I’d thought of it.)
For more about Mark see:
Jesus
Encounter Ministries / About.,,,,,
Mark’s YouTube channel
is:
YouTube:
– Mark Hemans ,,,,,
and, as I mentioned earlier, his website is:
Jesus
Encounter Ministries. ,,,,,
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SOME SHORT VIDEOS
OF:
MIRACLES & TESTIMONIES
WITHOUT ANY PREACHING OR
TEACHING.
YouTube:
– INCREDIBLE! DEFORMED FEET STRAIGHTEN,
cartilage & muscles
GROW, years of pain GONE
in JESUS NAME.
Short, 10m, video of a fast
progressing miracle
(ignore the woman laughing if
you’re not used to it).
YouTube:
– The FIRE of the HOLY SPIRIT comes down:
Peterborough UK revival
meetings.
A short, 13m, video of the miraculous.
I suspect that all the
burning
was build up, or somesuch,
to the ‘demon wrapped around
the head’ deliverance
at 8m 38s.
At 10m 56s, ‘That your joy
might be full’ lesson
makes sense to me.
John c14 v1-11 John c16 v23-24 1 John c1 v1-4,,,
YouTube: – FROM LIP READING to HEARING A WHISPER.
Neck
problems, brain lesions, grinding teeth, migraines.
Miraculous healing & testimony.
YouTube: – GIRL'S BACK OF THE HEAD GREW 15 mm,
jaws and ears realigned!.
Miraculous healing and testimony.
YouTube:
– AUTISTIC BOY HEALED!
While asleep sees Jesus &
golden castle in heaven.
Miraculous healing & testimony.
YouTube:
– 100% INTELLECTUALLY DISABLED
unable to toilet or dress by
himself,
or show affection. A MIRACLE!.
Miraculous healing & testimony.
YouTube: – Teenager demonized by using an occult game.
Words of knowledge and casting out demons.
YouTube: – UNABLE TO FUNCTION with ADD all her life.
1 year later
shares her incredible testimony.
Testimony of a miraculous healing.
YouTube:
– SURPRISE! Day after prayer she weighs less.
Word of knowledge, miraculous healing, & testimony.
YouTube:
– Girl sees Jesus
and smells the heavenly
flowers, set free of fear.
A delightful miracle, and very
educational.
YouTube: – A MIRACLE: brain damage,
suicidal, slurred speech.
Miraculous deliverance, healing, and testimony.
YouTube:
– THE MIGHTY POWER OF JESUS CHRIST
BLASTS THE DEMON OUT OF HER.
Brilliant video.
At 2m 30s Mark compares
casting out a demon
to loading & firing a gun.
YouTube:
– Doctor: 'SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR KIDS'.
Gina had a badly perforated
stomach.
Testimony of a healing of multiple illnesses.
YouTube:
– EX-LESBIAN SHARES HER STORY
of a changed life.
This includes a fascinating instance
of God's Spirit working through
a photo!
[Perhaps also see my own section
MORE
ON HOMOSEXUALITY,,,,
and its two subsections.]
YouTube:
– 13 year old GIRL BLIND
IN LEFT EYE can read! Jesus
still heals the blind.
Miraculous healing & testimony;
includes lessons on waiting on the Lord, and on faith.
YouTube:
– SHOCKING! BLIND,
STABBED in the EYE with a
fork.
Perfect vision in Jesus Name.
Miraculous healing & testimony.
YouTube:
– Spiritually blind from a demon in the eyes.
Casting out a demon and a testimony.
YouTube:
– CAN'T FIND THE METAL in his fused back.
IMPOSSIBLE TO BEND OVER!! Bends
over in Jesus Name.
Miraculous healing & testimony.
YouTube:
– HOW DEMONS CAN STOP
the EXPRESSING or RECEIVING OF
LOVE,
damaging
family & marriage relationships.
Miraculous healing & testimony;
Mark gets someone to help him
by way of that person casting
out their own demon!
YouTube:
– MOTHER GETS HER BOY BACK
from demon: drugs, hatred,
sex addiciton.
Miraculous healing, prophesy, and
testimony.
YouTube:
– DEAF & MUTE FROM BIRTH HEALED:
mission to the persecuted
church.
Miraculous healing, prophesy, and
testimony,
and:
YouTube:
– GOD’S HEALING POWER
ON THE DEAF & MUTE.
What it says on the can, wonderful
miracles.
YouTube:
– TESTIMONIES of those
WATCHING THESE VIDEOS
Also healing from a prayer cloth.
Testimonies of miracles
that occurred over the internet.
YouTube:
– A MIRACLE!
Delivered, healed and WALKS by the
power of.
Healing miracle. At 6min Mark says that
God’s love for your body,
his wanting to heal your body,
cannot compare to his love for your
soul,
his wanting to heal your soul.
YouTube:
– PROPHECY REVEALS:
FLIRTING, MARRIAGE
VIOLATION,
GIRLFRIEND OBSESSION, &
DIVORCE PAIN.
Extremely interesting video.
&:
YouTube: – PROPHECY REVEALS HIDDEN SECRETS
of abuse, violence,
witchcraft.
Another extremely interesting video.
Jesus, as well as
miraculously healing people,
would have had to have
counselled people,
just like Mark Hemans did in
the above two videos,
so as to prevent relapses etc.
E.G.
John c5 v5-14.
There are more videos like these
on YouTube.
You may ask: “Why do
so many Christians, of all people,
have demons that need to be cast out of them?”
I suspect that people,
who have a demon in them,
believers & unbelievers, sense there’s something wrong:
something doctors don’t detect or diagnose satisfactorily.
So they intuitively go to church, perhaps becoming believers,
or perhaps having been believers for years.
Indeed, I reckon that most people have a demon:
hanging around them,
waiting to encourage them in
their wrongdoing.
Also that, whenever someone responds positively
to the demon’s encouragements:
they are inadvertently encouraging the demon
to continue to hang around &
speak.
It’s the converse of: Jam c4 v7.,,,,,
Also that, those who do this a lot
are unwittingly allowing the demon
into their lives & minds even more. 1 Cor 10 v3-5.,,,,,
As Mark demonstrates,
demons manifest (do something obvious)
only when they see someone about to cast them out.
It’s a last ditch effort to make the minister fearful:
for even a little fear constitutes unbelief (doubt, in the mind)
and unbelief counteracts belief (in the heart & mind).
Perhaps see: UNBELIEF
IS A BREAK IN THE CIRCUIT.
Indeed, one distinct thing about Pentecostal practices
is that God’s work is visible, therefore clearer to follow:
o When God’s Spirit is in
you,
healing you, physically or
mentally,
you may: feel God’s Spirit in you, shake, fall,
laugh with joy, feel
hot: Matt c3 v11 Luke c3 v16.
(In: Mark c5 v24-34 v31,
the people would not
have been so confused
had they been falling
over.)
o It takes time to
cast out a demon
(though no more than
minutes)
and the person feels it.
There may be demonic poison
vomited out at the end
(perhaps that’s an attempt
at:
‘if I can’t have him/her
then no-one can’).
o People actually
see:
Jesus,
the glory cloud,
angels,
demons,
o Etc.
None
of these events needs to be
visible.
But God making them visible
is, in my opinion, edifying and
useful.
(Christians who have only ever
seen the natural
may well disagree with that.
They may well not be able to
discern between:
God’s
supernatural
and demons’
supernatural,
would be suspicious of anything supernatural,
even not be able to tell if a
supernatural healing
was from God or demons.
Perhaps again see: TRICKS
& MIRACLES.
and the
links within it.
(This link does not open up a
new tab.) )
With non-Pentecostals
(Andrew Wommack, Dan Mohler, etc):
The same things happen
but you don’t usually see it or
feel it.
(Though sometimes you do,
YouTube: – Dan Mohler - first demonic experience.)
The key difference, is that, with non-Pentecostal ways:
The healer, who has a renewed,
God-like, mind,
largely directs God’s healing,
largely decides what happens,
with the exception of a few
words of knowledge.
But with Pentecostal ways (e.g. Mark Hemans):
God directs the healing; indeed
directs everything.
(Andrew Wommack has a joke that,
in case his students think:
“I won’t pray [or command] for people unless I feel led”
he gives them each a lump of lead, to keep in their pocket,
for just such an occasion.
Andrew explains:
“It’s true,
we are indeed led at times.
But don’t restrict yourself to
doing nothing
until you are.”)
(A quirky difference is mass healing.
See two cells starting: Some Christians heal.)
As I mentioned earlier,
Andrew’s teachings and Mark’s ministry
complement each other.
As Andrew sometimes says:
o Meetings such as Mark’s
can be few and far between.
Hence Andrew teaches you
how you can miraculously heal
your own sicknesses.
o Conversely, it can take weeks, months, even
years,
to learn Andrew’s material.
Hence terminally sick people
may need to get to meetings such as Mark’s.
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THREE LONG VIDEOS
OF:
MARK’S PREACHING & TEACHING
FOLLOWED BY MIRACLES &
TESTIMONIES.
YouTube:
– Holland Revival Miracle Meetings
powerful anointing, demons
manifest,
miracles, God's fire, drugs.,,,,,
Very impactful ministry. Watch all of it.
At 39m 50s Mark says that he used to think that,
somehow,
he’d have to
press-in to come into God's presence,
but that,
one day, the Lord showed him that the way is open
because of the Cross.
Also – many great miracles.
YouTube:
– Sunshine Coast Highlights:
Bulimia, visually impaired, fibromyalgia,
walking sticks, demons cast
out.
At 21m 05s Mark speaks of his missionary days
in Paraguay, about
sowing in faith.
From: 32m 50s to
35m 09s Mark tells us to
not be afraid of failure,
and then expands on that.
At 38m 16s Mark explains, using John c5 v1-9,
his practice of locating
people,
or rather, the Spirit
locating people.
At 42m 00s Mark explains why he
blows onto the
microphone.
From then on a load of
amazing miracles.
YouTube:
– ADELAIDE HIGHLIGHTS
have you EVER SEEN a meeting
like it?
joy,
miracles, deliverance, fire baptism!.
The preaching & teaching
starts well
then gets even
better.
At 35m 20s to
39m 40s, there is the unusual
miracle
of someone's soul being given strength:
being changed, to do
God's work.
At 44m 44s Mark tells a man to obey the Holy Spirit,
even the little
instructions,
because they may be vital
steps
on the way to big events,
to miracles.
From 1hr 15m 10s to
1hr 16m 44s
Mark explains why his
services are the way they are.
I
have more videos of Mark’s preaching & teaching,
followed by miracles &
testimonies,
in an ‘overflow’ webpage:
More Mark Hemans’ teaching &
ministry.,,,,,
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TWO MEDIUM LENGTH
VIDEOS OF:
MARK’S PREACHING & TEACHING,
BUT WITHOUT MIRACLES &
TESTIMONIES.
YouTube:
– MAKE NO PROVISION FOR THE FLESH.
There is victory over sin.
An extraordinarily enlightening
teaching.
Part of it (10m 39s to
11m 44s)
is Mark explaining how he
does what he does:
Mark says that the
fear of God
is the basis for
obeying him.
[I see the New
Testament as more important
than the Old
Testament, not equally important.
Hence, for me,
it’s the fear of God’s absence
rather than the
fear of God’s presence
that’s the basis
for obeying him.]
Mark loves Jesus,
doesn’t sin, stays holy,
and doesn’t bother
with the world.
Hence the Holy
Spirit lives in him
fully and
continuously.
So Mark then
merely says or does
whatever the Holy
Spirit tells him to say or do:
no more, no less, simple.
[Australians are
already uncomplicated people.]
YouTube: – Walking in the Spirit
is to surrender to Jesus in
our daily decisions.,,,,,
Vital
teaching.
At 3m 22s Mark asks us if
we’d ever done something
that seemed right to us,
at the time,
but it turned out a total
failure?
Yes?
Mark then adds that it
was because we needed
the principle of the book
of Acts: Acts c15 v28.
For it
seemed good to us
and to the Holy Spirit.
Mark adds that, when it
seems good to you,
you should ask the Lord
if it seems good to him too.
Mark adds the warning to
be careful of filtering his voice
through your own fleshly
desires,
what you’d like to happen.
At 14m Mark recounts how
a pastor once asked his advice
about pastoring a church.
Mark replied “Don't
please people. Please God.”
At 14m 40s Mark insists
that, if you're really sick, say with cancer,
have some backbone:
stand up to all the
unbelievers in your family
who are expecting you to
drop dead,
who are planning your
funeral.
Believe the word of God.
He finishes this point by
saying that he’s speaking
from personal experience.
Likewise, at 15m 9s, Mark
advises young unmarried believers,
whose
girlfriend/boyfriend wants them to have sex,
to be strong and say:
“No”.
To please God, and wait
until you’re married.
Continuing on the subject
of intimate control,
at 21m, Mark says to
beware of ‘prophetic manipulation’:
people wanting you
to do
what they want to
do
but they put it in
the form of “God spoke to me”.
Consider what
their motive(s) might be.
Bottom line:
Don't let other
people make your decisions for you.
Be directed by the
Holy Spirit.
At 25m 21s Mark says that
God’s not going to act, in your life:
in a way that feels nice, all the time.
The Son of man had
nowhere to lay his head,
and got tired
& thirsty,
even though he was
doing his Father’s will.
Likewise, while
you are doing God’s will,
you too could find
life hard
and be
persecuted. [John c15 v20],,,,,
I
have more videos of Mark’s preaching & teaching,
where he didn’t include miracles
& testimonies,
in an ‘overflow’ webpage:
More Mark Hemans’ teaching.,,,,,
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JESUS
ENCOUNTER MINISTRIES (JEM)
WORSHIP TEAM
YouTube:
– PRAISE & WORSHIP:
Jesus Encounter Ministries
(JEM)
worship
team. Meeting 8.
There
are more such videos on YouTube.
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Kathryn Krick, American.
I’m currently (14th Aug ‘24)
studying Kathryn Krick’s seventeen videos:
YouTube: – The Secret of the
Anointing, ,,
and her book of the same name.
She reminds me a lot of Smith Wigglesworth
(the next biblical teacher-healer, in this list).
Kathryn, unlike Mark Hemans (above), has no qualifications
in theology (not that Mark values his much),
nor decades of experience in: pastoring, preaching,
teaching, and being anointed.
She’s only 31, been a pastor & apostle only seven years,
and anointed & doing miracles only three & a half years.
‘Do’
is the verb used in the KJV. Though, obviously, we can do miracles only because
Jesus’ Crucifixion earned us: God’s
Fatherhood, and the Holy Spirit. Acts c3 v12 & v16,,,
Seeing her minister I think of 1 Cor c12 v28
and find that I can’t not
call her an apostle.
Hence I think of her, not as a trainee apostle
(that’s too ‘only half-way there’),
but as an apostle who’s still learning.
She’s learning by experience,
and is keen to convey her discoveries to us,
which is excellent.
For example:
YouTube: – Maintaining the
Anointing: Keeping Jesus First, ,,
contains a lot of very good material, new to me.
(35m 43s – 38m 04s
was just waiting
for an anointed woman to come along
and say it).
Just as a good, efficient, unbelieving woman
is all about:
o teamwork,
o encouraging each other,
o honouring each other
(instead of manly
competitiveness),
o inspiring &
attracting other women,
so also Kathryn, a believing & anointed woman,
is all about:
o miraculous teamwork, you
taking the anointing home,
o encouraging each other
to rely on God,
o honouring all believers
who contribute
(instead of taking them for
granted
because they chose to
contribute),
o inspiring &
attracting other Christian women.
Hence her ministry is refreshingly different.
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I’m only a philosopher, not a
minister, nor pastor,
and I’ve only done a few small miracles so far.
So I am, perhaps, out of my depth.
But she’s prompted thoughts in me, mostly positive,
as follows.
Kathryn’s named her church “Five-Fold Church”
from the verse Eph c4 v11-14. ,,
(One might infer that these five offices cannot be mixed.
But Paul, who wrote Eph c4 v11-14, was:
an apostle
and an evangelist
and a pastor
and a teacher.
So I think he was being categorical
rather than exclusive.
And 1 Cor c12 is like this:
regarding v29 ,,,
Kathryn is an apostle and a worker of miracles.)
It could be argued that:
It’s not vital anymore to have
prophets
(they used to give church
leaders
reliable spoken messages from
God)
because we can now, instead,
use the Bible as a guide.
But that argument looks weak,
certainly on paper.
And it could be argued that:
It’s not vital anymore to have
travelling apostles
(they used to lead &
oversee)
because we now have bishops
& missionaries instead.
And neither need
travel in order to lead & to
preach
(as the first apostles needed
to)
because we now have printed
& online Bibles
and unbelievers can now be converted,
discipled,
healed, delivered, &
anointed, on Zoom.
However, that people travel
great distances
to meetings such as Kathryn’s
(& Mark Hemans’),
and that some nations put up
national firewalls,
shows that that argument is
wrong.
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Conversely, the internet is full of
teachings of every religion
and full of Christian teachings both good and
bad.
So, in my opinion, conversely:
This is the age of relying on:
individuals
discerning
and on God’s Spirit
speaking & acting
(demons will certainly
quietly speak).
So, gone are the days of trying
to keep people safe,
of relying on spiritual fathers and human leaders.
Young Timothy followed Paul, 2 Tim c1 v6,,,,
but that would only last for a while, 1 Cor c1 v11-13.
Believers who remain ever
fathered
must surely remain weaker than
they could be.
For it’s God who is the stronger man
in Matt c12 v22-29 and Mark c3 v22-27. ,
(Regarding Acts c9 v17: Paul didn’t go back
to Ananias
to feed off him.)
So I assume it’s because:
Kathryn’s new to all
this,
and/or is young &
less experienced generally
in life,
and/or because she’s a
woman
& her anointer was
a man,
that she seems to believe she would,
and perhaps therefore actually would,
in effect, lose her anointing
were she to ever leave,
disconnect from,
prophet GeorDavie who anointed
her.
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The first quarter of an hour of:
YouTube: – How to receive Impartation ,,
is a good introduction to Kathryn’s ministry.
Perhaps also see:
Apostle Kathryn Krick. ,,
In my opinion:
o Kathryn’s preaches are
very well prepared.
But, for Baptists, she could do
with more scriptures
to back up more of her
statements (Google’s good).
o I realise she
needs money to do ministry.
But us giving money in order for God to help us
(see: YouTube: – A Heart That God Searches
For, ,,
at 1hr 17m 36s) is wrong. Matt c10 v7-8 ,,
o She’s says Western
Christians don’t honour
Christian leaders. But I think we do, but quietly.
Likewise Kathryn should correct
any adulation for her
if only because it discourages
having prayer helpers.
Prayer helpers would
prevent/solve problems
that shouldn’t be there and that
critics spot.
YouTube: – I Went to a Kathryn Krick
Event
,, ,, (Revival Now, Denver) and Here's What Happened. ,,
Mark Hemans anoints (temporarily
I assume)
his prayer helpers such that
they’re turbocharged.
Search for prayer helpers in:
this webpage
and in
More Mark Hemans’ teaching
& ministry
and in
More Mark Hemans’ teaching.
o Kathryn’s ministry
is mostly about the Holy Spirit
and people’s needs, rather than
about the Cross
and repentance. I reckon this is because,
with Pentecostals etc, in a big
meeting,
the Cross and repentance are a given.
(Likewise, I argue against the sinner’s prayer
in: THE
CONVERSE DEFINITION OF A CHRISTIAN.)
But I think we all do well to
explain this omission
to any Baptists etc who watch
the YouTubes.
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As far as I can tell: the anointing,
or, to be clear,
the miraculous anointing (there are other anointings),
is God’s Holy Spirit, but manifesting power.
All believers contain God’s Holy
Spirit
so as to guide them
(not continuously of course, we’re not robots).
But not all believers are
miraculously anointed,
not currently anyway.
Now, I reckon that:
miraculous anointings in Old Testament times
are fundamentally different from
miraculous anointings in these
New Testament times.
God’s Holy Spirit is the same
so the power is the same.
But the human is different
so the integration of the Holy Spirit with the human
is different.
The Old Testament miraculous
anointing
had miraculous power.
But it was power to do bad
as well as do good:
See: The
good & bad that God does. , , , , ,
o to mould and
preserve the Jewish people
even at the expense
of other peoples.
The New Testament miraculous
anointing
has miraculous power.
But it is power to do only
good:
o to prove that Jesus’ Punishment
in place of all of us is true,
o to prove that all that Jesus said is true,
o to bless people
(God’s heart’s expression*).
(*Hence the Old Testament miraculous anointing
was only on them
and was only temporary.
But the New Testament miraculous anointing
is in you
and is permanent.)
By New Testament I mean post-Pentecost.
See part 4) of:
GOD
DOES NOT CHANGE
,, ,, ,, ,, BUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH US
CHANGES. , , , , ,
So I reckon Kathryn shouldn’t model:
New Testament
miraculous anointing &
impartation
on:
Old Testament examples of
miraculous anointing &
impartation (e.g. Elijah & Elisha).
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As Kathryn says, there are two ways
to receive
the miraculous anointing:
Directly from God:
Old Testament: Judg c3 v10 Judg c6 v34 etc.
New Testament: Acts c2 v2-6 (Luke c11 v5-13). ,
Indirectly from God,
impartation,
from an anointed human to an
un-anointed human:
Old Testament: 1 Kings c19 v16. ,
New Testament: Acts c9 v17 2 Tim c1 v6. .,
She says that most examples, in the Bible & in life,
are anointing by impartation: one human to another.
I thought: Nah, Jesus said “Ask God”. Luke c11 v5-13 .,
But research showed that even Smith Wigglesworth
received his anointing, by impartation, from a woman!
(N.B. He did not later think of her as his spiritual mother
nor seek her teaching in particular.
Mind you, he was
tough as old boots (well, tough on the outside),
really thirsty, and logically barged his way through Christendom
to find God wherever he could be found.)
Biography Mary Boddy. ,,
International Christian Women's
,, ,, History Project & Hall of Fame. ,,
Go to Lesson
4 and click on WATCH.
This will take you to
YouTube: – Lesson 4: Searching the Source
of the River, ,,
where, at 18m 36s,
Pastor Thomas Ball Barratt
anointed Mary Boddy
then, at 21m 36s,
Mary Boddy anointed Smith
Wigglesworth.
Smith Wigglesworth. ,,
click on: His Life
then click on: Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
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Kathryn’s excellent teaching:
YouTube: – The Three Indwellings of the Holy
Spirit, ,,
(it’s not part of the Secrets Of The Anointing series)
usefully identifies 3 successive indwellings
of the Holy Spirit:
1 Becoming
a believer, 8m
30s
believing Jesus died for your
sins,
God’s Spirit lives inside of
you.
2 Receiving
the baptism of the Holy Spirit, 20m 45s
the Holy Spirit comes upon you,
with fire,
and you speak in tongues,
you have power to do miracles.
3 Receiving
the anointing, 38m
which God only gives when he
sees
that he can trust you with it,
you walk in miracles
miracles are not just
occasional,
you are a representative, of
God, to people,
officially a minister to people
(though not by an earthly
office).
This teaching was produced by practical experience,
what she’s seen, and it makes perfect sense to me.
So I have no reason to disbelieve any of it.
But my biblical findings, in:
BIBLICAL
PHRASES ,,
&, immediately after it,
BAPTIZED
IN GOD’S SPIRIT LATER? ,,
seem to contradict her teaching.
Perhaps we’re both right.
My explanation starts
in the cell before last As
far as I can tell. ,,
My explanation continues here:
The Holy Spirit (in this
context) is a whole person,
never a part of a person.
The Father either sends him, or
he doesn’t.
In these New Testament times
the Holy Spirit’s indwelling is
permanent.
God never takes
back, from beings,
what he has promised or given
(it’s a
time-travel thing).
WHY
GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER ,,,
and
COMMANDS THAT INVOLVE THIS SECOND DIMENSION. ,,,
So, if God
has given, or decided he will give,
a miraculous
anointing
(and Jesus earned it for us, wants it
so,
& the
person has accepted the gift)
then God
will never take it away.
In sinning
you force the Holy Spirit out of, perhaps,
all the rooms of your mind, all the areas of your life.
But he’ll
remain in the hallway, where God put him.
He won’t
leave entirely.
Hence, from God’s point of view:
Any kind of New Testament infilling
is all or nothing.
Hence in life, from our point of
view:
all New Testament
infillings
vary according to how we are,
but biblically, conceptually,
from God’s point of view:
all New Testament
infillings
are the same.
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Smith
Wigglesworth, 1859-1947,
Pentecostal.
Smith seems to have been only a
preacher, not a teacher.
Perhaps again see:
What’s the Difference Between Preaching and Teaching?
,, By Andrew Wilson | Monday 13
May 2013.
But if you read (or
listen, on YouTube) to his preaching:
not in an earthly frame of mind
but in God’s frame of mind,
then you realise that he taught
much.
You just have to read
between the lines.
See my deductions
in last four cells
(starting This
is how Smith Wigglesworth lived)
of section: PRAYING
& FASTING.
YouTube:
– God's Generals Series - Smith Wigglesworth.
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Kenneth Copeland retells
,, Smith Wigglesworth raising a man
from the dead
Testimony.
,, ,, I don’t include, in this list, Kenneth
Copeland himself
,, ,, for reasons I give later, on this webpage,
,, ,, but this testimony is very interesting.
YouTube:
– Ultimate Documentary On Smith Wigglesworth
Valuable teaching: from 33m to
46m.
YouTube:
– Insider view of Smith Wigglesworth
Interview with Smith’s great
grand-daughter, a believer.
AZ
Quotes of Smith Wigglesworth
Some revealing, powerful, tips.
Smith
Wigglesworth. ,,
His site.
Wikipedia: Smith Wigglesworth. ,,
See cell before last regarding
the origin of his anointing.
The two books of Smith Wigglesworth’s
excellent sermons, from
one-hundred years ago:
Ever Increasing Faith
and
Faith That Prevails
are, in my opinion, vital
reading for any Christian.
Or
perhaps listen to the video version:
YouTube: – Smith Wigglesworth Ever
Increasing Faith.,,
,, ,, It’s read by an American, whereas Smith had
a thick Yorkshire accent.
Smith’s
biography:
Smith Wigglesworth: Apostle of Faith.
by
Stanley Howard Frodsham
is extremely encouraging.
Abbreviated combination of the above
three books:
Wigglesworth – The Complete Story.
by
Julian Wilson,
is also extremely encouraging.
,, ,, Perhaps get the above four books from a
Christian site;
,, ,, I bought one copy from Amazon and it was
wrongly assembled!
Smith was powerful, but simple.
Hence, when he flatly refused to pray
twice for someone,
saying: “Once is faith. Twice is unbelief”
I personally suspect that:
it was certainly true
for him, there & then,
but it need not (yet)
be true for others.
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Bethel
Church, Redding, California.
Miracles &
teaching.
American.
Entirely biblical, emotional and
logical.
Bill Johnson is the senior
pastor at Bethel.
YouTube: – Bill Johnson -
,, Creative
Miracles At Bethel - Part 1
Miracles.
YouTube: – Bill Johnson || DECEMBER 11, 2017 -
,, What
Jesus Accomplished Now || Teaching Truth
,, ,, ,, ,, 37m 15s to
47m 30s are particularly
pithy.
Good teaching – ‘Jesus
redefined what a king is’.
YouTube: – Bill Johnson -
,, Creative
Miracles At Bethel - Part 2
Miracles.
YouTube: – Bringing Heaven to Earth
God gives us much
so that we can do good:
naturally &
miraculously.
YouTube:
– Bill Johnson Preaches a Powerful Sermon
,, After Wife's Passing,,,,,
Bethel Church has seen many powerful miracles.
So it was a shock when Bill, the
senior pastor’s, wife,
Beni, died of her sickness, despite much prayer.
I remember Dan Mohler had a similar
problem
and concluded that it’s due to
having:
faith in a good record
of answered prayers
rather than having:
faith in God.
So the thing to do is to
make:
every one
of everyone’s
prayer on a matter
to be as if it were
the first prayer on
that matter.
Bill is one of a list of people I’ve
learnt a lot from
(Andrew Wommack, Dan Mohler,
Mark Hemans,
Smith Wigglesworth, etc).
Bill is an actual pastor &
preacher.
I am only a philosophical
Christian.
So some may think it bad taste
for me to critique his sermon on
his wife’s passing.
But I reckon it could be
helpful, so here it is,
or rather parts of it.
Bill's questions, spoken and
unspoken, are about God.
When
they should be about:
o himself,
o his wife,
o those who were meshed not only
in prayer for her
but also in communication with
each other,
o and perhaps circumstances.
And
his questions should be about belief and unbelief:
Belief in God’s great love for us
during this Church Age.
Unbelief, doubts in the mind,
from the world and from nature.
At
8minutes I find it sad that Bill says:
"I
want to give him [God] the most priceless gift I can give him:
and
that is: joy - in loss: celebration -
in pain.
That
is: giving up my right to understand.”
We
should never give up the right to understand
(the
disciples ever questioned Jesus, and he didn’t rebuke them for that).
In
1940 C S Lewis wrote The Problem of
Pain
in which he wrote: ‘Pain is God’s megaphone to a deaf world’,
[what
a wrong statement].
C S Lewis was an intellectual
Christian.
He wrote the brilliant Mere Christianity and The Screwtape Letters.
But, to my knowledge, healed no-one.
Later,
in 1960, sadly, his wife died of cancer.
I
often wish that, earlier in his life, he'd met Smith Wigglesworth.
Smith had the mustard seed of faith.
But he was uneducated - and made sure
he stayed that way
(read only the Bible, did nothing but
pray, spoke only of God, etc)
so he had zero unbelief.
He raised a number of people from the
dead
as well as doing very many healing
miracles.
14m
38s Bill says:
“Mourning will either take you
to the Comforter,
into the presence of the Holy
Spirit,
or will take you
to unbelief.”
That’s
an educational distinction.
Then
Bill reads: Matt c5 v4 NKJV,
that you’re blessed if
you’re mourn
because you’ll be
comforted.
(As far as I can tell,
Bill uses the NKJV,
so I’ve made my links to
his Bible references to be NKJV)
and adds:
“Answers won't fix the problem,
presence will.”
I reckon answers do help with
such problems
though not always completely.
At 24m 57s Bill says:
“If I praise him,
without surrender,
I was just making
a business deal.”
I like that.
At 25m 19s Bill says:
“Great faith
doesn't come from striving,
it comes from
surrender.”
I want that on a poster
for me
and a banner for my
church.
Then Bill reads: Heb c12 v1 NKJV,,,,,,
about a cloud of
witnesses and running the race,
and adds:
“Remember the
verse that goes:
Death,
where is your sting?
No-one, who is
conscious of eternity,
can find the sting
in death.”
I love that.
Then Bill reads: John c12 v24 NKJV,,,,,,
about a grain of wheat
needing to die in the soil
so that much more wheat
can grow.
Then, regarding the cloud
of witnesses reference,
Bill says:
”We're not alone,
and it's not about us."
I want that on a poster
too.
Regarding Bill's point
about God using a crisis as a grain,
to produce an increase:
I'm sure it’s
true.
And it's unique to
God (the world sees loss as loss).
But is Bill
wanting to find worth in his wife's death
having not found
answers?
Certainly God
doesn't need a crisis/loss to produce.
He can produce in
any situation and none.
Ahh, it’s clearer now (time of writing, March 2023,
about eight months since Bill’s
wife, Beni, died).
A book Bill’s just
promoted, The Physics of Heaven,
shows that he was once into New
Age,
[was, presumably, impressed with
its manifestations,]
and thought [& still
thinks?]
that New Age can contribute to Christianity.
But I reckon that
carnality/the flesh, and demons,
tolerate miracles, perhaps even
like them,
providing the gospel doesn’t come with them.
Hence the music of Bethel [& Hillsong & Elevation ?]
is
usually good, sometimes excellent,
and there’ll be some miracles.
But you’ll sometimes/often
need to add the gospel to them,
because it’s missing,
if you’re going to see the complete kingdom of Heaven.
John c15 v5 NKJV
Many churches:
have comfort &
excitement
but no gospel
for reasons other than New Age
thinking.
Conversely, some
churches
have the gospel,
and so should see miracles,
but don’t
because they don’t believe in
miracles.
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Heidi Baker,
Mozambican (though originally American).
YouTube:
– Nov 16, 2017 Women on the Frontlines
,, HEIDI BAKER — Being FULLY
FILLED With GOD's GLORY!
Vital teaching &
testimonies. The Bible reading
and the preaching start at 30m
40s.
YouTube:
– "Knowing The Ways Of God" - Heidi Baker
Vital teaching &
testimonies.
YouTube:
– Heidi Baker: Intimacy for Miracles - CBN.com
Teaching & testimonies, 2008.
YouTube:
– 700 Club Interactive:
,, Follow Your Dreams - March
20, 2014
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Heidi Baker on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural! |
,, Reckless Devotion
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Heidi Baker - Intimacy with God
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Heidi Baker's Testimony
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube: – Heidi Baker( Nov 11, 2017)
-
,, Being Closer To Jesus And
Knowing Him
Teaching & testimonies.
YouTube:
– Heidi Baker( Nov 16, 2017) We Are Anointed
Teaching & testimonies.
There’s more of Heidi on YouTube.
Heidi’s website is:
Heidi Baker ( IRIS )
Teaching & testimonies.
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Isabel Chapman, Scottish.
God's
Word To Women: Testimony of
Isabel Chapman
Testimony & teaching.
The above is the only internet
presence
that I can find of Isabel.
But I recommend her book: Arise & Reap.
Don’t underestimate women biblical
teacher-healers.
Of
all the biblical teacher-healers on this webpage
God told only: Isabel Chapman,
Heidi Baker,
& Mark Hemans, to do
missionary work
in dangerous places.
God told Isabel to go to the Philippines,
to its inaccessible jungle
areas,
to preach to, & to
miraculously heal,
the head-hunting tribes there.
But she didn’t yet know how to miraculously heal.
So, when she arrived, in Manila,
a young Kenneth Copeland was
having a big
healing meeting there.
She attended, not because she
was ill, but to learn.
Many people were healed & saved at
Kenneth’s meeting.
But it was Isabel, not Kenneth,
whom God had told
to carry on travelling – to the
head-hunters.
(Their initiation into manhood
was to bring back
the head of a member of another
tribe.
They also worshipped idols &
used black magic.)
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John Mellor,
Australian.
YouTube:
– Severely disabled boy miraculously healed
,, 'Today Tonight' National News
- John Mellor Miracles
Testimony.
YouTube:
– Child in wheelchair suffering from painful
,, Köhler
disease healed & runs - John Mellor Miracles
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Disabled woman in wheelchair
,, with cerebellum brain injury
,, healed & walks - John
Mellor Healing
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Blind, disabled man in wheelchair healed
,, 'Today Tonight' National News
- John Mellor Miracles
Miracle.
YouTube: – Keratoconus blindness
miracle healing
,, John
Mellor Australian Healing Ministry
Testimony.
YouTube:
– Autistic child totally healed -
,, John
Mellor Healing in Jesus' Name
Testimony.
YouTube:
– Child born blind miraculously healed
,, & vision restored after prayer
- John Mellor Healing Ministry
Testimony.
YouTube:
– John Mellor - ‘Position Yourself
,, To Receive a Miracle’ Part 1
Teaching.
YouTube:
– John Mellor - ‘Position Yourself
,, To Receive a Miracle’ Part 2
Teaching.
YouTube:
– Healing teaching and demonstration -
,, John
Mellor Ministries
Miracle & teaching.
YouTube:
– John Mellor teaches on faith -
,, 'Don't
stop believing'
Teaching.
YouTube:
– John Mellor teaching on healing -
,, what
voices are you listening to?
Teaching.
YouTube:
– John Mellor teaching on
,, persistent faith - never give
up!
Teaching.
YouTube:
– Some of the blockages to being healed -
,, John
Mellor Ministries
Teaching.
YouTube:
– Teaching about healing prayer -
,, John
Mellor Healing Evangelist
Miracle & teaching.
YouTube:
– Healing seminar teaching with demonstration
,, healing of painful spine -
John Mellor Miracles
Miracle & teaching.
There are more ‘John Mellor
teaching’ videos on YouTube.
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Pastor (Doctor) Kay Ijisesan, American?
YouTube: – Kingsword Everywhere ,,,
Worship, testimonies, preaching
& teaching, miracles.
Watch from 2hr 20m onwards
for preaching & teaching,
then miracles.
There’s more of Dr
Kay on YouTube.
Kingsword is the group of
churches
that Pastor Kay established.
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Tom Fischer,
American?
YouTube:
– Tom Fischer:
,, The Uncensored Street Healing
Movie
Miracles & teaching.
YouTube: – Wonderful encounter on a NJ boardwalk
Miracles & teaching.
There’s
more of Tom on YouTube.
Thomas Fischer - Living the Miraculous
All about the man and his
ministry.
Cardboard Box Church, Tom’s YouTube channel. ,,,
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Pete Cabrera Jr, American?
YouTube:
– Get up and walk out of that wheel chair
,, in Jesus name
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Dead arm comes to life in Jesus Name
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Busted ankle restored
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Streets of Frankfurt Germany with Pete Cabrera Jr
Miracles.
YouTube:
– Dorthie get up and walk WOW!
Miracles.
YouTube:
– What no Doctor could do JESUS!!
Miracles.
YouTube:
– 16 rods in her back
Miracles.
YouTube:
– How to start living in the Spirit made simple
Teaching.
There’s more of Pete on YouTube.
Pete
Cabrera Jr’s YouTube channel.
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Tom Loud,
American?
Pete Cabrera Jr
(see previous cell)
has inspired a pastor called Tom
Loud:
YouTube:
– The day I learned NOTHING from Pete Cabrera Jr !
Teaching.
YouTube:
– Pain level 10, Doctors couldn't heal her,
,, so Jesus Did!!!!
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Breast Cancer Tumor Vanishes in Jesus Name !
,, -
Tom Loud
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Wrist with metal rod healed; soul saved;
,, Jesus Glorified
! -Tom Loud
Miracle.
There’s more of Tom on YouTube.
Tom’s church:
Shoreline Full Gospel
Fellowship. ,,,
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Nathan Morris, British.
Nathan Morris is an
inspiring biblical preacher-healer
(I say preacher-healer because I haven’t found
any teaching yet. But there may be
some somewhere):
YouTube: – Face to Face with Nathan Morris
Life story, testimony, &
more.
YouTube: – Nathan Morris/Blind girl begins to see
,, @ Bay Revival, Ohio
Miracle.
YouTube: – Woman Gets Healed
,, After Being Paralyzed For 23 Years
Miracle.
and:
YouTube: – Delia Knox Testimony
,, at Bay of the Spirit Revival Pt 1.
and:
YouTube: – Delia Knox Testimony Part 2.
YouTube: – Deaf Woman Healed in Creative Miracle
,, @ Bay of the Holy Spirit Revival
Miracle.
YouTube: – Blind boy healed
,, at Bay of the Holy Spirit Revival
Miracle.
YouTube: – Baby Boy healed in Lake Charles.mov
Miracle.
YouTube: – Deaf baby healed at Bay of the Holy Spirit Revival
Miracle.
YouTube: – Mother & daughter both healed @ Bay Revival
Miracle.
YouTube: – Young boy with cancer touched @ Bay Revival
Miracle.
YouTube: – Young deaf boy healed @ Bay Revival
Miracle.
YouTube: – Young girl with heart arrhythmia
,, & on a feeding tube
,, healed @ Bay Revival, Ohio
Miracle.
Also see: AVERTING
DISASTERS. ,,,
YouTube: – Woman who had 5 strokes
,, is healed @ Bay Revival
Miracle.
YouTube: – Alanna's Story from the
Bay Revival
Miracle.
There’s more of
Nathan on YouTube.
Nathan Morris - Shake The Nations Ministries,
,, his YouTube channel. ,,,
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This cell is an
assortment of
biblical preacher/teacher-healers.
Some I’m familiar
with, some not.
Some have a big media presence, some not.
Some seem to heal just by themselves, some seem to
heal only when they’ve got a congregation there.
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome PhD:
,, his TV channel’s site (Loveworld UK)
Miracles & teaching.
Nigerian.
In 2008 I went to his first UK meeting
and saw miracles, just
like on TV.
I liked his books: Praying The Right Way
and None Of These Diseases,
which were the start to
my
understanding of doing miracles
,, ,, ,, ,, ‘Do’
is the verb used in the KJV. (Though
see Acts c3 v12 & v16.)
Pastor Chris has
since divorced which is unfortunate.
(The culture of many a nation
is often, at least partly, counter to Christian culture,
and Nigerian culture is no
exception.)
Also
try YouTube.
Evangelist Rambabu -Rambo - Home |
Facebook
Teaching/miracles.
Indian.
Also try YouTube.
Wisdom
Ministries (Nasir Siddiki)
Teaching.
Canadian.
Entirely biblical, but also
logical (rather than emotional).
Also
try YouTube.
New
Creation Church (Joseph Prince)
Click ‘video messages’.
Teaching.
Singaporean.
Entirely blbilcal,
yet also logical.
Also
try YouTube.
Prophetic Vision (David Hathaway)
Miracles & teaching.
British.
Also
try YouTube.
John
& Carol Arnott.
American?
YouTube: – John & Carol Arnott
LIVE with Sid Roth
Teaching &
testimonies.
YouTube: – AIMG TV - Miracles & Healing Night -
,, april 14, 2018 with John Arnott
Teaching, miracles,
& testimonies.
Christ for all nations: Reinhard Bonnke & Daniel Kolenda
Reinhard:
German, 1940-2019. Daniel: Zimbabwean.
Simple
but effective, big-meeting evangelists/preachers.
YouTube: – Blind Woman Healed
,, in
front of 200,000 People! (Daniel Kolenda)
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Deaf Muslim Healed in Jesus' Name!
,, (Daniel
Kolenda)
Miracle.
YouTube:
– Watch This Miracle! Regina Atta.
,, (Reinhard Bonnke)
Testimony.
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And here’s some historical material:
YouTube:
– God's Generals,
,, Why they Succeeded and Why
Others Failed
Historical teaching &
testimonies
compiled by Roberts Liardon.
A five-hour video of
historical
biblical
teacher-healers:
Starting with: Smith
Wigglesworth
(video repeated from
earlier).
Kathryn Kuhlman. A. A. Allen. Jack Coe.
Evan Roberts. John Alexander Dowie.
John G. Lake. Maria Woodworth Etter.
Oral Roberts. William Branham.
William J.
Seymour. Charles F. Parham.
Or, if you want to see all
the above
but broken down into
individual programmes,
then see the videos in:
YouTube: – Roberts Liardon God's
generals.
Perhaps also see:
YouTube: – Kathryn Kuhlman
,, How
to Be Filled and Controlled By the Holy Spirit.
YouTube:
– AIMEE SEMPLE MCPHERSON ||
,, POWER OF FAITH || SERMON
VAULT
Teaching.
YouTube: – Aimee Semple McPherson
Historical teaching
& testimonies
compiled by Roberts Liardon.
Wikipedia:
Aimee Semple McPherson. ,,,
YouTube:
– Azusa Street Revival
,, Eyewitness Accounts-Pentecostal
History
An 18 minute interview with
people who were there.
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I’m sure there are many other biblical teacher-healers,
with or without a media presence, that I haven’t mentioned.
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I don’t include Kenneth Copeland or Benny Hinn
because they love money, which is wrong.
They are very much richer than many of the people
who give to them.
1 Tim c6 v6-12,,,Acts c2 v38-47,,,1 Cor c9,,,Phili c4 v4-13,,,
1
John c2 v15-17:
Love
not the world,
neither the things that are in the world.
If
any man love the world,
the love of the Father is not in him.
For
all that is in the world,
the lust of the flesh,
and
the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life,
is
not of the Father, but is of the world.
And
the world passeth away,
and the lust thereof:
but
he that doeth the will of God
abideth for ever. KJV
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A much more extreme case
of anointed ministers going wrong
is that of the late TB Joshua.
TB Joshua: Megachurch leader
raped and tortured worshippers, BBC finds. ,,,
I can’t see any reason why his accusers would lie.
Also
consider:
YouTube: – Trending NOW: Prophet T.B. Joshua’s Accusers
Cry Out For Help … .,,,
N.B. The man defending the late prophet TB Joshua speaks with threats,
speaks like a: gentile version of an Old
Covenant (therefore Jewish) prophet.
Whereas Jesus told all Christians that they must forgive those who persecute
them.
Matt c5 v38-48 Luke c6 v27-36,,,
How can such ministers preach the gospel
and:
miraculously heal, to back up
the gospel,
and:
shortly beforehand/afterwards
commit crimes?
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I think that a Christian,
who is indeed anointed,
YouTube: – Disgusting Neck/ Back
Ulcer Healed
After TB Joshua Prayer,
but who sins, indeed commits crimes,
is like someone who wins the lottery
then finds that winning has ruined their life:
God’s gift, of you doing many
miracles,
would cause:
adulation (it shouldn’t
be so, but it happens),
and great trust,
from people.
These would give you new
opportunities
to be vain/greedy/lustful and
get away with it.
Opportunities that you may not
have prepared for.
Opportunities that demons will
encourage.
Demons look even harder
for a crack in the armour of an anointed Christian.
If they find it, they’ll:
speak to you,
and speak to others or
other people’s demons
(traps require
co-ordination 2 Cor c10 v3-5).,,,
See cell starting:
Regarding everyone having.,,,
See
cell starting: A demon will keep. ,,,
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God never takes back, from beings,
what he has promised or given
(it’s a time-travel thing).
WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER ,,,
and
COMMANDS THAT INVOLVE THIS SECOND DIMENSION. ,,,
So, if God has given, or decided he will give,
a miraculous anointing
(and Jesus earned it for us, wants
it so,
& the person has accepted the gift)
then God will never take it away.
In sinning you force the Holy Spirit out of, perhaps,
all the rooms of your mind, all the areas of your life.
But he’ll remain in the hallway, where God put him.
He won’t leave entirely.
However, the Holy Spirit needs to be
in every room of your mind,
in every area of your life,
for a miracle producing ministry.
Hence, over time, a sinning minister would:
o Increasingly rely
on the faith of:
the congregation
&/or the individual
being healed or delivered.
o Increasingly need to:
slowly jolt him/herself
out of the world
before a healing
service.
o May eventually need to:
o fake miracles
o or quit the ministry.
Notice that TB Joshua didn’t use black magic to do miracles
(you can’t do so). He used God’s Spirit to do miracles.
See TRICKS & MIRACLES. ,,,
He used black magic to do wrong.
(See: 36m 40s to
39m 30s of the second BBC
programme.)
Likewise he used God’s Spirit (therefore he had God’s Spirit)
to cast out demons – even towards the end of his life.
You cannot cast out demons using demons Matt c12 v22-29.,,,
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Demons are more likely
to target potent believers than unbelievers.
Like soldiers are more likely
to target enemy combatants
before they get shot themselves.
Target the active fit first
then the sluggish wounded.
Target you with inner temptations (so have no weaknesses)
& encourage your persecution (so be prepared for trouble).
All to make you less effective
and more entertaining.
All this is something for demons to do.
Indeed, it’s the only sort of thing they can do:
always the spanner
never the works.
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Many churches use secular methods to advertise the gospel:
social events,
entertainments,
novelty guest speakers,
etc.
Jesus used miraculous signs & wonders.
Paul’s modus operandi, on his first missionary journey,
was to:
go into a town,
do a miracle to attract a crowd,
preach the gospel (& do more
miracles),
then, after a while, there’d be
a backlash
so he’d be chased out of town,
then he’d go to the next town
and do the same thing all over
again,
repeating the process from town
to town.
On his second missionary journey
he revisited each towns
he found that the dust had settled
and churches had formed in his absence.
My point is that Paul started, each time, with a miracle,
just like Peter did, in Acts c3,
and that we should do likewise.
Eph c1 v19-23 and
1 Cor c12 – c14 combined:
Jesus
is now the head
and you, the church, are now the
body.
Hence you, like Jesus,
have been given the Spirit
so that you too can have the
gifts of the Spirit
including doing miracles. my abbn
Perhaps see: CONTINUING THE SON’S WORK.,,,
Though also see TRICKS & MIRACLES. ,,,
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WHICH
KIND OF CHRISTIAN ARE YOU?
(THE THREE KINDS OF FRUIT)
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Some Christians on this webpage do miraculous healing.
But they do it in odd ways, in ways that Jesus did not do.
And we must keep a look out for the demonic.
Perhaps again see: TRICKS
& MIRACLES.
and the
links within it.
(This link does not open up a
new tab.)
However, if you are not doing miracles, at all,
‘Do’
is the verb used in the KJV. (Though
see Acts c3 v12 & v16.)
then be careful not to
throw out the baby
with the bathwater.
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In a Christian – the gospel produces three kinds of fruit:
a) Stop doing
bad 1 Cor c15 v9
(needless
to say, this includes stopping doing supernatural
bad Acts c8 v5-13).,,
b) Do natural good. Acts c2 v45
c) Do miraculous good. Acts c3 v1-8
Hence there are six possible combinations:
a) Stop doing bad.
b) Do natural good.
c) Do miraculous good.
a) & b)
Stop doing bad. Do
natural good.
a) & c)
Stop doing bad. Do
miraculous good.
a) & b)
& c) Stop doing bad. Do natural good. Do miraculous good.
Perhaps again see: CONTINUING THE SON’S WORK. ,,,
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Hence a Baptist
Christian
might complain about a Pentecostal
meeting
where repentance (stopping doing
bad) wasn’t preached.
For example:
YouTube: – Street Preacher Confronts
,, John Kilpatrick & Nathan Morris at Bay of the
Holy Spirit!,,,,,
But a Pentecostal
Christian might reply
that their congregation had stopped
doing bad long ago
and had now started doing miraculous
good.
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Indeed, to do
miraculous good,
you need to have stopped doing bad.
See Mark
Hemans’ (a Pentecostal)
really good teaching on
stopping doing bad:
YouTube: – Living for the glory of
God, etc,,,,,
at top of overflow webpage:
More Mark Hemans’ teaching.
(This link does not open a
new tab.)
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Baptists (& others)
are focussed on:
Stopping doing bad.
And so also on:
Doing good.
Hence they are used to:
Doing natural tasks.
Are not used to:
Stopping doing natural tasks.
Hence they don’t let go
of miraculous tasks either:
Have many people praying.
Work hard at praying.
Don’t let go of the problem
so that God can take it.
They have the
needed mustard seed of belief
but they also have much
unbelief.
I.E. They know
that God’s love and power are true
but they also know, and
think about it,
that doctors and medical
science are also true.
See: UNBELIEF,
& KEEPING YOUR HEALING,
and the links within it.
(This link does not open a
new tab.)
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WHY
BIBLICAL TEACHER-HEALERS DO IT
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Biblical
teacher-healer’s teaching is usually corrective.
You may ask:
“What is there to correct?”
I say:
“Much Church of England liturgy, prayers, & hymns
repeatedly ask God to
forgive
us,
come to us,
heal us,
give to us,
help us,
etc.
But God cannot do these
things
because he has already done them,
all of them, for all of us,
by way of Jesus being
crucified in our place
so that we can have God’s
Holy Spirit.
But do you believe it
and do you believe it
applies to you?
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Repeatedly
asking
shows that we don’t believe.
Indeed,
repeatedly asking
reinforces that we don’t believe.
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UNBELIEF, & LACK OF BELIEF,
WITHIN THE CHURCH
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The gospel is the good news
that Jesus was Punished
in place of all of us:
His Punishment
made all our sins (before God) vanish
even though all our wrongs (before
each other) remain.
Perhaps see: THE TWO ACCOUNTS. ,,,
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You become a Christian:
not when you only know the gospel, in your mind,
but when you also believe the gospel, in your heart.
Rom c10 v10
On believing –
your heart
becomes grateful
and so renews your mind:
1) Duplicates its belief into
your mind
so that even your mind
believes.
2) Establishes:
the pattern of that belief,
the pattern of the
gospel, agape love,
throughout your mind.
then:
your heart
& your mind
& God’s Spirit
inside you
will be alike,
then all three of you can live & work together
without you getting in their
way.
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THE THREE MAIN FEATURES
OF BEING A CHRISTIAN
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1) Jesus’ crucifixion put all humans right with his Father.
Hence his Father gave his Spirit to all humans.
Mind you, even though
God gave his Spirit to everyone:
Only those
who’ve accepted Jesus’ sayings:
“forgive all who’ve
hurt you”,
“love your
(personal) enemies”,
etc,
will accept help to do those things,
namely from God’s Spirit.
Only those
who’ve accepted the Son
also accept the Spirit.
The Spirit
makes no sense to unbelievers.
John
c14 v16-17:
And I will
pray the Father,
and he shall give you
another Comforter,
that he may abide
with you for ever;
even the
Spirit of truth;
whom the world cannot
receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:
but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you. KJV
Perhaps read the whole of John c14.
2) You can pray
for
miracles healings
& blessings: Matt c7 v7-11
By believing, in your heart,
that Jesus made everyone
right with his Father.
And by your heart then
renewing your mind accordingly,
so that your mind also believes
though without doubting*.
So that all of you, heart
and mind,
contains God’s Spirit
and has faith in Jesus’
name. Acts c3 v16
and your prayers
will be
immediately/soon answered.
3) You can command
miracles healings & blessings:
By believing, in your heart,
that Jesus made everyone
right with his Father.
And by your heart then
renewing your mind accordingly,
so that your mind also believes
though without doubting*.
So that all of you, heart
and mind
contains God’s Spirit
and has faith in Jesus’
name. Acts c3 v16
and what you’ve
commanded will
immediately/soon happens.
Perhaps see: WHY
GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER. , , ,
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All this assumes that:
You have renewed your mind, think
like God thinks.
You obey God’s Spirit whenever
he speaks to you.
Hence you act out of an agape
love towards everyone.
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*Christians often use the word doubt.
But unbelief is the technically
correct word:
You can have doubts about all sorts of matters
but unbelief is specific to you doubting about God:
Only believers
can have unbelief.
(Only believers can
doubt in their mind
what they believe in
their heart.)
Unbelievers
cannot have unbelief.
(Unbelievers cannot
doubt in their mind
what they believe in
their heart
because they don’t
believe in their heart
in the first place.)
Perhaps
see: UNBELIEF. ,,,
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UNCONDITIONAL
LOVE
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Believing that the Son
was crucified in our place
is good, indeed it’s vital.
But believing is not, in any way,
paying-your-way.
Hence:
Jesus’ act of God’s
love towards us, his crucifixion,
and the good results of it,
are, in effect, unconditional.
Luke c15 v11-32: my
abbreviation
God is like a father who
loved his two sons.
One son asked for his
inheritance in advance
but then wasted it all on wild,
immoral, living.
Hungry, he returned home to
apologise deeply.
But his father’s very warm
welcome
drowned out his apologising.
The other son, though his
inheritance was still intact,
was angry at his father’s
welcome for his brother.
His father tried to reassure
him:
told him that he loved them
both, equally, unconditionally.
But the son wouldn’t have it,
didn’t understand such love,
saw only that he should be
loved, not his brother.
His isolation from his father
& brother
had become vivid. my
abbreviation
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You may say:
“But there are other parts of the Bible
that say that God’s love is conditional:
1 Cor c6 v9-10 Gal c5 v19-21 Eph c5 v5 Col c3 v5
Heb c13 v4 Rev c21 v8
combined, my
abbreviation:
The
following won’t go to Heaven:
Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers,
effeminate,
abusers of themselves with
mankind,
thieves, the covetous,
drunkards, revilers,
extortioners. Those who practice, or who have:
sexual immorality, impurity,
sensuality,
idolatry,
sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy,
fits of anger,
rivalries, dissensions,
divisions, envy, orgies.
Whoremongers, the
(morally) unclean.
Those having:
inordinate affection,
evil concupiscence, anger,
wrath, malice.
Those having:
blasphemy and filthy
communication come out of
their mouths.
The abominable, murderers,
liars. my abbreviation”
But I say:
“Much of the Bible
stars, and is even written by,
people who had actually committed such crimes.
Admittedly they repented, became
good.
But they’d still done those
crimes, in the past.”
See: FOR
A WHILE THE SOUL MAY BE
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OPPOSITE OF THE HEART/SPIRIT. ,,,
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God, in this Church Age, this New Covenant Age
(i.e. 33ad to now), is loving, not just:
In the KJV:
The Old Testament contains 29 instances
of the word justice.
The New Testament contains 0 instances
of the word justice.
Similarly, last time I looked,
Smith Wigglesworth’s online
sermons contained:
0 instances of the word justice
277 instances of the word love.
,, ,, , Smith’s sermons are
rotated by the site owner.
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If your response:
to God being absolutely loving,
and to the Cross being unconditional,
is to say:
“Then what’s to stop us
sinning?”
then it shows you haven’t yet believed
and so have insufficient gratitude:
To only know, in your mind,
that God no longer takes note of
sins,
without also believing it, in your heart,
would indeed make you sin more.
Or perhaps you do believe, in your heart,
but your heart has not
yet renewed your mind accordingly:
you are not grateful throughout,
not certain of
your salvation throughout.
Rom c6 v1-2 Rom c6 v15 1 Cor c6 v12-20
&
Gal c2 v16-21:
Did
God Forgive us so that we can sin (more) freely?
Absolutely not. my abbreviation
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But if you do believe, in your heart,
and if your heart has renewed your mind accordingly:
1) Duplicated
its belief into your mind
(so that even your
mind believes).
2) Established the pattern of that belief
the pattern of the gospel, agape
love,
throughout your mind.
then you
would think and act
like God currently thinks and
acts:
completely constructively.
That includes (due
legal process aside)
forgiving all those who’ve hurt you
however great the hurt.
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