A better site than this one

 

 

INTRODUCTION

 

 

If you want to learn how Christianity works
then
see the long list of links on the home page.
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But, if you want to learn how to do Christianity,
then choose one or more of the dozen or so
biblical teacher-healers on this webpage
(that’s what I call them anyway).

 

 

The teacher I recommend the most
is Andrew Wommack.

Andrew’s two sites, & his YouTubes & books,
teach you how to miraculously heal others & yourself.


A close second is Mark Hemans. 

If you are ill now, especially terminally ill,
and are a Christian, and have faith,
then consider going to one of Mark Hemans’ meetings:
        He tours globally (though some countries
        are more restrictive than others).
        Or go to one of his online Zoom meetings.


        As Andrew says, the purpose of
        ministries like Mark’s, whether Zoom or live,
        is that you may be near death
        and so not have time to learn to heal yourself.


If you’re not ill, or if your healing is not urgent,
then you’d do well to learn Andrew’s teachings:


        For example, see Andrew’s all-in-one teaching:
       
YouTube: – Andrew Wommack
,                  If You Need Healing You watch this video
,                  it will help-you
. ,,,

Andrew’s my personal favourite mainly because:
        He teaches by subject.
        This led him to write articles & books by subject.


        This made Andrew’s teachings:
           
o   Compatible with my my philosophical work
                 (i.e. with the rest of this site).
           
o   Easier to learn if you just want to be healed
                 or want to heal others.

 

 

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Over the years Andrew Wommack established two sites
(Andrew’s sites work better on a PC than on a smartphone).


His first site is  Andrew Wommack Ministries (awmi).

His second site is  Andrew Wommack Ministries Europe (awme).

 

 

His first site includes:

        Teaching Articles: ,         ,         (all subjects: written, condensed). 

        Audio Teachings: , ,         (all subjects: audio). 

        Healing Testimonies: ,          (some subjects: videos, very encouraging,
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         ,         ,         ,         ,         ,         works best/only on PC or laptop).

        Event Video Archives: ,      (some subjects: videos).

        Bible Commentaries: ,          (mostly New Testament: written).

        All TV Archives: ,      ,         ,         (all subjects: easy watching, videos).

 

 

Andrew has put many of his audio teachings
into book and e-book form:


        I particularly recommend his book:
                 A better way to pray.


        I also recommend his books:
                 Insights into faith.
                 God wants you well.
                 You’ve already got it.
                 The believer’s authority.


His, relatively brief, Teaching Articles ,,,
are a good way to see, generally,
what he’s about.

It’s also a good way to see
which
Audio Teachings (all free)
you might like to listen to
or which books to buy.


(I’ve probably listened to all of his audio teachings.)

 

 

Andrew teaches how to command a healing, in Jesus’ name,
so as to heal yourself and others.


You may say:
        The
kingdom of Heaven is built on love,
        not selfishness.
        So you healing yourself is wrong.


I say:
        God’s kingdom is built on:
                 God’s love for us.
                 Not our love for each other.

                 So: you healing yourself
                 (it’s actually: God’s Spirit, in you, healing you)
                 is right.

 

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I do not agree with absolutely everything Andrew says . .

    1) I disagree with Andrew, and many other Christians,
        on the subject of homosexuality:


                 Hear Andrew’s view on homosexuality in:
                
AW's Audio Teachings /
,                            Christian Philosophy /
,                            Homosexuality
.

                 Perhaps read my view on homosexuality etc
                 in
GOD’S WORDS ON SIN 
                 down to:
TRANSGENDERISM.
                 Also use the links within those nine sections.
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         This link does not open up a new tab.



    2) Andrew is right as to who Jesus is
        (only begotten Son of God)
        but wrong as to what Jesus is
        (he says Jesus was created).
       
THE WORDS THAT THE FATHER CONTRIBUTED
,              FOR THE CONCEPTION OF JESUS
. ,,,

        And he made a similar error
        regarding the origin of humans.
       
CREATING MATTER, BUT MAKING HUMANS.


    3)
Unlike Andrew Wommack, and indeed many Christians,
        I do not think that all non-Christians go to Hell.


        I wrote the webpage:
        The two ways God sorts us:
,
              Judgment & Forgiveness
, , ,
        and the ten webpages after it
        to address this matter.



    4) I disagree with Andrew in:
       
GOD’S SPIRIT GROANING,,,
        and:
       
I DIFFER FROM ANDREW WOMMACK
,              AS TO WHY JESUS GROANED
. ,,,

        Mind you, I’d have nothing to write
        if he hadn’t introduced me
        to this, rarely taught, subject.



    5) I disagree with Andrew, though only technically, in:
       
Why I sometimes use the word ‘Punishment’
,             instead of ‘crucifixion’
. ,,,

        When Andrew says that our healing is in the past
        he is wrong from a technical point of view
        but right from a practical point of view.



    6) Jesus said, regarding his parable of the soils:
                
Matt c13 v3-8  &  v19-23,,,
                 and
                
Mark c4 v3-8  &  v14-20,,,
                 and
                
Luke c8 v4-15,,,
        that if you can’t understand this parable,
        you won’t understand any parable.  
Mark c4 v13

        Andrew concluded that Jesus must have said this
        because it is a fundamental parable.


                 See Andrew’s two, written (& audio), teachings:
                
It Begins with a Sure Foundation,,,
                 and:
                
God’s Word – The Seed Of His Blessing,,,

        But I reckon that Jesus said this
        because it’s a straightforward parable
        (hence, if you can’t grasp it, you won’t progress).



    7) Andrew is subjective regarding our spirit, soul & body
        whereas I am more objective, even diagrammatic.
 


. . but, so strongly do I approve of
the rest of Andrew’s teaching
that I have zero passion for disagreeing with him.

 

Conversely, Andrew, and indeed many Christians,
may have grave misgivings about my philosophising
(see the long list of links on the home page):

        o   I do not think
            that only Christians go to Heaven.
            Perhaps see point 2), previous cell.


        o   I am not only biblical.
            I am also logical, even scientific.
            Perhaps see: MY ATTITUDE TO THE BIBLE. ,,,

Whereas all the Christians on this webpage
are purely biblical.

 

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Within dispensationalism (Wiki Dispensationalism)
is the doctrine of c
essationism (Wiki Cessationism).

Cessationism is a potent doctrine
‘supported’ by only two verses:
1 Cor c13  v8  &  v10.
N.B. These two verses
were written by Paul, not spoken by Jesus.
See
part 2) of: MY ATTITUDE TO THE BIBLE. ,,,

However,
v9-13:
        ‘but when perfection comes’
        and ‘When I was a child’
        and ‘glass, darkly,
obviously:
        don’t say that gifts of healing etc
        will cease in this life,
        but do say that they will cease
        in the next life
[because they won’t be needed].

Hence cessationism is probably due to observation:
        We don’t see miracles today
        so God must have banned himself from doing them,
which is on the same level as saying:
        We don’t see God
        so he doesn’t exist.

        See:
2 Cor c5 v1-7 see v7.

        Also see:
WHY DEMONS ENCOURAGE IDOLATRY.,,,

A complete, or even partial, belief in cessationism:
        Not only leaves people sick etc.
        It also leads to Christians who don’t heal
        accusing Christians who do heal
        of demonic work.

       
Matt c24  v24    (Mark c13  v22):
        For there shall arise
        false Christs, and false prophets,
        and shall shew great signs and wonders;
        insomuch that, if
it were possible,
        they shall deceive the very elect
.   KJV

        The irony is that
        the accusing Christians may well:
           
o   be living such a clean life,
           
o   have so renewed their minds
                 to be like Jesus’ mind
                 (love enemies,
                 have forgiven all who’ve hurt them),
        that they could fully host God’s Spirit 
John c7 v38-39,,,
        and certainly do miracles 
John c14 v12-17,,,
        if only they believed
        what Jesus said on the matter.

I too believe the above warning, about false Christs:
        See third cell (starting
Using their own imagination)
        of
HOW DEMONS ARE ABLE TO DO THINGS.

But, I also believe Jesus
when he said that we, in his name,
can do miracles.
‘Do’ is the verb used in the KJV.  (Though see Acts c3 v12 & v16.)


        See: WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER,,,
        and the links within it.
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        See: TRICKS & MIRACLES.
        and the links within it.
,         ,         This link does not open up a new tab.


        See: Gospel leaflet  and  Christian healing leaflet.,,,

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Some people ‘accuse’ Andrew of being a word of faith man.

        I.E. If you say it, with faith, & no unbelief,
        and it’s in accordance with the Bible,
        then God will do what you say.

And he is, indeed, ‘guilty’ of this (as am I).

However, Andrew (& I, & many)
also believe in:
   
o   God’s overall leadership.
   
o   His guidance – overruling any carnal thinking
        that we may still have
        or that may arise.
   
o   His kingship.
And that changes everything:
        changes ‘word of faith’
        from a vice to a virtue.

Jesus told his disciples to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers,
raise the dead, cast out devils. 
Matt c10 v8,,,
His disciples (& later, as apostles) did as he told them
(and when they failed, asked him for correction).
        God: on top.
        Disciples / apostles / other believers: in the middle.
        Sickness / death / demons: at the bottom.
That’s the power structure.

Remove the top layer and you are indeed
as proud and conceited as Satan & demons.

Christians who do miracles need to say, more regularly,
        that it’s not their own power or holiness that did it,
        but Jesus’ name
        and faith in that name,
Acts c3 v12 & v16.

Indeed, it’s not their own power or holiness at all
but only Jesus’ name & faith in that name.

It’s only the Cross, safely locked in the past:
        that made Jesus’ Father to become our Father too
        and earned us the Father’s Holy Spirit.

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KNOWLEDGE: SO WHAT

My material
(see the long list of links on the home page)
is stuff you can merely know, in your mind.


But knowledge, on its own, is inadequate:    

        Paul (though he was an intellectual himself
Acts c26 v24)
        wrote that we need more than intellect & knowledge:
           
1 Cor c8 v1    and    1 Cor c13:
            Any moral quality, without love,
            equals nothing
.   my abbreviation
,         ,         ,         Charity is the old English word for love.

        Peter, too, wrote that we need more than knowledge:
            2 Pet c1 v5-8:
            Make every effort to have faith, goodness,
            knowledge, self-control, perseverance, godliness,
            brotherly kindness, and love.  my abbreviation


        And, finally, Paul wrote:
            1 Cor c2 v5:
            ctd your faith should not stand
                     in the wisdom of men,
                     but in the power of God.   KJV

As for the activity of thinking:

        It usually takes too long, and is unnecessary,
        for you to compute a situation to know what to do.
        It’s quicker, simpler, and more reliable,
        to listen to, and to obey, God’s Spirit.


        Just believe, and renew your mind.

Mind you, thinking can be of value after the event:
        for analysis of the event
        and for studying Christianity generally.


        Perhaps see: STUDYING AND DOING.

        Perhaps see: THINKING TOOLS THAT I USED. ,,, ,,,

 

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ABOUT ANDREW WOMMACK

Andrew (and indeed everyone else on this webpage)
is a biblical teacher-healer,
as compared to a biblical preacher-healer.


        A biblical preacher-healer:
                preaches & heals
        rather than:
                 preaches & teaches & heals
.

        (My uses of the words ‘preach’ and ‘teach’ are biblical.)

                 Perhaps see:
                
What’s the Difference Between
,      ,      ,      ,      Preaching and Teaching?
,      ,      ,      ,      By Andrew Wilson | Monday 13 May 2013
. . . .

Andrew has read little else other than the Bible.

Hence he, and most/all others on this webpage,
have little scientific knowledge.
 
This works to their advantage.

        Scientific knowledge (e.g. medical knowledge):
                 in the mind, next to the mind’s belief,
                 given significance alongside the mind’s belief,
                 so that it counteracts the mind’s belief,
        constitutes:
                 unbelief,
       
and unbelief hinders the miraculous.


        Perhaps see: UNBELIEF and its subsections.

However, if, like me, it’s too late for you,
if, like me, you already have much scientific knowledge,
then add, to that knowledge, belief.

Belief that the Creator is also the Constructor:
Hence he must build.
            Created everything.
            Made us out of everything.
And, if a builder, then also a fixer.
            Caused our healings & other blessings here.
            Caused our eternal home in Heaven.
            Caused our Forgiveness, & son/daughter status,
            with his Father.
            Caused his Father to give us his Holy Spirit
            even when we’re not yet entirely holy.

            All four fixings being caused by Jesus’ crucifixion.

Andrew is neither a grace teacher nor a faith teacher.
He is a grace through faith teacher.


   
    Eph c2 v8:
        For by grace are ye saved through faith;
        and that not of yourselves:
       
it is the gift of God:   KJV

        Perhaps see Andrew’s short written article
       
Living in the balance of grace & faith.

Andrew describes himself as a Bapticostal.
I think it’s a good description.

He seems to have cherry-picked:
    the lifestyle & Bible study disciplines of the Baptists
    (the denomination he was brought up with
    who lack miraculous healing)
and:
    the expectation of miracles of the Pentecostals
    (who experience miraculous healing
    but sometimes lack in personal discipline & Bible study).

Andrew’s style is:

    o   Thorough.  Comprehensive.
        But sometimes slow.
        Even repetitive if he feels he’s not got his point across.
        Hence you may prefer his books & written teachings
        to his speaking.


    o   Logical rather than emotional,
        passion hidden (so, more British?).

   
o   Lacking in political correctness and earthly theatre.
        So he tells what’s wrong in our lives, and how to fix it,
        even if he offends.
        (Actually – quite a few good ministers do this.)

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ABOUT BIBLICAL TEACHER-HEALERS
GENERALLY

As well as Andrew Wommack (see previous cells)
I’ve got a dozen or so other biblical teacher-healers
on this webpage.

As I wrote earlier, I recommend:
        Andrew Wommack’s teachings the most,
        Mark Hemans’ a close second
        (find Mark a
quarter the way down this webpage),
        Dan Mohler third,
        and others after them.

Dan Mohler is a popular speaker
but he prefers to speak to small, attentive, audiences.


In the following list
I include some of Todd White’s miracles.
(Dan led Todd to the Lord
and they taught together for a while.)

I include God doing miracles through Todd
but not Todd’s teaching.
Todd is more passionate than intelligent (nothing personal)
which distracts from the, otherwise, probably good, points
he’s making.


My comments under the links.


        YouTube: – The Gospel, straight up, no additives 
        Teaching & testimonies.  Vital.


        YouTube: – Best description of the Gospel - Dan Mohler 
        Teaching & testimonies.  Vital.


        YouTube: – Dan Mohler - How to Pray 
        Teaching & testimonies.  Vital.


         YouTube: – What believing the gospel 
,                   really means - Dan Mohler
 
        Teaching & testimonies (half an hour).  Vital.


        YouTube: – The Sinful Nature - Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.  Vital.


        YouTube: – Dan Mohler - Free from Guilt, Shame,
,                  and Condemnation

        Teaching & testimonies.  For you – perhaps vital.


        YouTube: – Healing, the bible’s way…legit… - Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.  For you
perhaps vital.

        YouTube: – Why Didn't it Work - Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Why do only some get healed?
        Teaching & testimonies. 
        God’s Spirit answered this question for Dan, with:
                 “Be a steward, have integrity,
                 have true faithfulness to the New Covenant,
                 because this Gospel is for the sold-out,
                 the surrendered, the completely dead
                
[this refers to the healer, not to the patient].”

        YouTube: – Dan Mohler - How to Resist the Devil
        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Meeting God - Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.


          YouTube: – Tips of the Trade - Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.


          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - how to put off the old man
,                  & put on the new man

        Teaching & testimonies (half an hour).


          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - getting rid of selfcentred thinking
        Teaching & testimonies.  Good stuff.


        YouTube: – Dan Mohler on Fear
        Teaching & testimonies.


          YouTube: – Dan Mohler & Todd White -
,             Is God in control of everything?

        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Satan’s Strategy Dan Mohler  
        Teaching.


          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - Why does it seem harder
,              to receive healing for myself than others?

        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - Impartation. Is it scriptural?
        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - Dating and marriage
        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - Manifestation.
,              Some have a lot. Some have none. Why?

        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Dan Mohler and Todd White -
,              Praying with the Right Heart & Thinking

        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Excuses and Contending- Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Repentance, it's simple... -Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.

          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - first demonic experience
        Teaching & testimonies.  Very educational.


         YouTube: – Knowing Your Authority
,              & Staying in Faith by Dan Mohler

        Teaching & testimonies.


         YouTube: – Strongholds and Deliverance Dan Mohler
        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Todd White – Reading their Mail
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – Todd White – Healing on the Streets
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – Todd White – More Healing on the Streets
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – Todd White – Radical Healing of Ears
,              in Jesus’ Name

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Todd White – He was in unbelief of healing ..
,              Watch as Jesus shows up!

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Powerful Miracle at Fire16 
        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Todd White’s story
        Todd’s testimony & background.

Here are three of Dan’s longer teachings:

        YouTube: – Dan Mohler - HC - Faith is a perspective -
,              1 January 2016
 
        Teaching & testimonies. 
        and:
       
YouTube: – Dan Mohler - HC - Faith is a perspective -
,              2 January 2016
 
        Teaching & testimonies.


          And, if you want more:
        YouTube: – OUTSTANDING MESSAGE!!!
,              WOW WOW WOW!! TRANSFORMING!
 
        Teaching & testimonies.


And, a shorter teaching, repeated from earlier:

         YouTube: – What believing the gospel
,              really means - Dan Mohler
 
        Teaching & testimonies (half an hour).  Vital.


The above four teachings
propose a new, fourth, phase to Christianity.
A phase that, actually, is a return to
the original phase:


    1) Original phase:    I am a servant:
                                         I, and God’s Spirit in me,
                                         do natural & miraculous good.

                                        
Matt c13 v44-46

    2) Oldish phase:      I am a servant:
                                         I do natural good.


    3) Recent phase:     I am a consumer:
                                         God does miraculous good
                                         to me, & for me.


    4) New phase:         I am a servant:
                                         I, and God’s Spirit in me,
                                         do natural & miraculous good.
                                         Matt c13 v44-46  


Andrew Wommack, too, teaches this fourth, new, phase:
        in ch13 & ch14 of his book A Better Way To Pray
        and elsewhere.


Likewise Bill Johnson teaches that God has given much
to believers, but as tools:
        tools to serve,
        tools to do miraculus good to others.

       
YouTube: – Bringing Heaven to Earth.   

My conclusion:
        God does indeed bless believers.   
John c10 v7-10 
        But he also gives believers power
        to naturally, and miraculously, serve others. 

Here are some more of Dan’s long, but good, teachings:

        YouTube: – Dan Mohler - Knowing the Father
        Teaching & testimonies. 
        He addresses much that’s wrong
        with most Christians’ lives:
        gives a picture of how it should be.


        YouTube: – Dan Mohler – The Power of Fasting
        Teaching & testimonies. 
        Some good, practical, stuff, later on, in this teaching.

        YouTube: – Dan Mohler 2016 The Power of Love
,              WOW WOW WOW!!!

        Teaching & testimonies. 
        Getting free from yourself, free to love.
        (This was at Andrew Wommack’s
Charis Bible College.)

Dan Mohler’s website is:

        Neck Ministries: Dan Mohler’s website
        Teaching & testimonies.

Todd White’s websites are:

        Lifestyle Christianity (Todd White’s website)
        Perhaps click on the Events tab or Power & Love tabs.

        Lifestyle Christianity Church
        Teaching & testimonies.

(Though, as I wrote earlier,
Todd is more passionate than intelligent (nothing personal)
which distracts from the, otherwise, probably good, points
he’s making.
)

I listened to all the teachings on Dan’s website.
Unfortunately Dan seems to have had a clearout,
then added more.
But I think the 19 recording I recommend are gone.

But, if so, they can still be found at:

        New Covenant NEW CREATION New Life
               Dan Mohler - Older teachings - Mix


        To play the file:
                 click anywhere on the bar.
        To download the file:
                 click on the black
symbol at the end of the bar.

        My comments (or Dan’s) in white.

        FFH 7-28-2009 - The Truth that sets you free
        Encouraging testimonies peppered with teaching.

        Establish Your Heart
        Snapping our chains that stop answered prayers.


        Faith Revealed
        Practical, educational, breakdown of how faith works.

        Intimacy With God - 3-2008 (Part 1 of 2)
        Practical teaching – ends with educational testimony.

        Intimacy With God - 3-2008 (Part 2 of 2)
        Happy Dan - encouraging us to get alone with God.

        It's Relationship, Not a Method - 4-10-2008 (Part 1 of 2)
        Relationship or method, faith or medicines: consider.

        It's Relationship, Not a Method - 4-10-2008 (Part 2 of 2)
        Relationship or method, faith or medicines: consider.

        LCF - 3-12-2009
        Visit the healer, or know God and become a healer.


        LCF - 4-2-2009  (Particularly 29m 28s – 38m 20s)
        Five mins chatter, then it’s: belief & love, not effort.


        LCF - 4-3-2008  (Particularly 41m 0s – 1h 2m 40s.)
        Spiritual manifestations without the loony-ness.


        LCF - 7-17-2008
        Commanding healing, much teaching.


        LCF on return from Miss - 1-2009
        Love is the only motive, great testimonies.


        Lords and Ladies
        How religion stops people being miraculously healed.


        Loving Them Back To God 2-2008
        How to deal with marital betrayal & suchlike.


        Mulliken's - 6-19-2008 Baptism
        Remain an open channel for God,  
        also, why water baptism is vital.


        Our Created Value
        God, not  me/problem/fear  centred life, and praying.


        Straight Shooting  (Gets going 10mins in.)
        Stay in God’s hand, or stay in fear.
        Your righteousness is proportional to
        God’s Lordship in your life.


        The Fence
        Come boldly to God for his help;
        so it’s confidence, not pride.


        WV
        Your relationship with God
        renews your mind.

Dan taught:
        As God led him.
        And, therefore, according to the needs of his audience.
Hence Dan’s teachings are pretty subject-less.


Andrew, too, taught as God led him.
But, though he had been a pastor in the past,
he recorded his teachings in a studio.

Hence he had no audience.

Hence he was able to record his teachings by subject.


This, later, lent itself to him writing books on each subject.

This, in turn, lent itself to:
        me repeating his concepts (brown text)
        as I wrote a section (partly) about that same subject.

Dan’s style is:
   
o   Sharp & fast.
   
o   Passion shown.

Andrew’s style is:

    o   Thorough.  Comprehensive.
        But sometimes slow.
        Even repetitive if he feels he’s not got his point across.
        Hence you may prefer his books & written teachings
        to his speaking.


    o   Logical rather than emotional,
        passion hidden (so, more British?).
,,,

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Mark Hemans, Australian.

I like Australians.
Unlike other cultures, even many non-Christian Australians
tend to be WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get).
I.E. Australians typically don’t have a side.
They also dislike (unnecessary) sophistication:
something many of the rest of us like to hide behind.


Mark’s:
   
o   Anointing (temporarily?)
        the prayer helpers,
John c7 v37-39, 
        so that they’re of much more use.
   
o   The occasional laying on of the foot
        (when they’re lying on the floor it’s more practical).
   
o   Having prayer helpers wear workman’s hi-vis vests
        with ONLY BELIVE printed on the back.
   
o   Blowing the anointing through the microphone.
   
o   Etc.
are all rather Australian I reckon:
        thoughtlessly practical,
        unselfconsciously cultureless.


 
When people say that Mark healed them,
Mark won’t let them go until they’ve
changed it to Jesus healed them.

Mind you, in the KJV the verb ‘do’ shows that, actually,
the Christian does the miracle, God ‘merely’ empowers it.

But Mark’s stance is more practical:

        It ensures that people don’t see him, Mark,
        as the answer.  So they, instead, go away and seek God
        to the degree that they feel they lack anything.

        Technically speaking, Jesus’ crucifixion earned us:
                 God’s acceptance (i.e. Forgiveness & Fatherhood).
                 God’s powerful Holy Spirit.

                 Hence any Christian does miracles
                 only in Jesus’ name,
                 often declaring as such.


        So, while Mark is wrong technically,
        he is right practically.



Mark quietly calls himself an apostle
(apostle with a small ‘a’)
which is appropriate in my opinion:
   
o   He tours the globe, by invitation,
        visiting average sized churches,
   
o   preaching well & encouragingly,
   
o   healing many.
and it’s obvious he’s not in it for the money.

Hence he is:
   
o   Contributing to the Church’s strength & growth.
   
o   Very partially leading it.


        Regarding apostles & prophets generally:
                 See later cell (starting
Paul writes that Christ),,,
   
            and the three cells after it.
                 Also see the links within them.
,         ,         ,         ,
         This link does not open up a new tab.
 
        Likewise see later cell (starting
As far as I can tell) ,,,
        and the links within it.
,         ,         This link does not open up a new tab.



Mark uses the NKJV, so I made all my links
to his Bible references NKJV.


God’s Spirit told Mark to minister the way he does.
Mark says that people should do likewise:
        I.E. Listen for the Holy Spirit’s instructions, for them,
        and never simply copy another minister.
        See 7m 33s into:
        YouTube: – PRINCIPLES OF DELIVERANCE MINISTRY:
,              authority & power, divine order, the Blood of Jesus
.,,,
       
[I add: God is constructive, so he loves variety.]

 

Mark started his first run of mission trips in 2004
(as shown in his old website, now gone).

In 2011 he stopped his mission trips because he lost
his health; indeed lost everything.
YouTube: – WHO ARE YOU REALLY ON THE INSIDE?
The REAL YOU in Christ is more important than appearances
, ,
see 30s – 1m 50s.

Also see Mark’s powerful testimony:
YouTube: – MY STORY: 9 YEARS BATTLE & VICTORY
over STAGE 4 MELANOMA.

How faith and repentance brought healing.
,,,

(You may also find the following two minute video useful.
It explains the difference between prophesy and words of knowledge.
YouTube: – Prophetic Word vs. Word of Knowledge //
Katia Adams // Vineyard Insights
.) ,,,


Mark’s own YouTube channel is: YouTube: – Mark Hemans ,,

His ministry’s website is: Jesus Encounter Ministries. ,,,

        SOME SHORT VIDEOS OF:
        MIRACLES & TESTIMONIES
        WITHOUT ANY PREACHING OR TEACHING.


        YouTube: – INCREDIBLE! DEFORMED FEET STRAIGHTEN,
,     ,     cartilage & muscles GROW, years of pain GONE
,     ,     in JESUS NAME
.
        Short, 10m, video of a fast progressing miracle
        (ignore the woman laughing)
.

        YouTube: – DELIVERANCE: organised crime,
,     ,     drug trafficking & addiction, serious assault, & prison
. 
       
Deliverance, healing, repentance, & testimony.

        YouTube: – HIGH SPECTRUM AUTISM
,     ,     HEALED BY JESUS CHRIST
. 
        Miraculous healing & testimony. 

   
    YouTube: – The FIRE of the HOLY SPIRIT comes down:
,     ,     Peterborough UK revival meetings
.
        I suspect that all the burning was build up, or somesuch,
        to the ‘demon wrapped around the head’ deliverance
        at 8m 38s.
        At 10m 56s, ‘That your joy might be full’ lesson
        makes sense to me.
       
John c14 v1-11   John c16 v23-24   1 John c1 v1-4,,,

        YouTube: – CAME IN OFF THE STREET & THIS HAPPENED:
,     ,     12 years osteoarthritis healed. No longer uses crutches
. 
        Deliverance, healing, testimony, & good instruction. 

        YouTube: – FROM LIP READING to HEARING A WHISPER.
            Neck problems, brain lesions, grinding teeth, migraines
.
        Mirac
ulous healing & testimony.

        YouTube: – GIRL'S BACK OF THE HEAD GREW 15 mm,
            jaws and ears realigned!
.
        Mirac
ulous healing and testimony.

        YouTube: – I PHYSICALLY SAW DEMONS around me.
,     ,     “It all went away when Jesus delivered me"
. 
        Powerful deliverance, & testimony.  Very educational. 

        YouTube: – A MIRACLE! Delivered, healed
,     ,     and WALKS by the power of Jesus
. 
        Powerful deliverance & healing, & testimony. 

        YouTube: – AUTISTIC BOY HEALED!
            While asleep sees Jesus & golden castle in heaven
.
        Miraculous healing & testimony.

        YouTube: – 100% INTELLECTUALLY DISABLED
,     ,     unable to toilet or dress by himself,
,     ,     or show affection. A MIRACLE!
.
        Miraculous healing & testimony.

        YouTube: – Teenager demonized by using an occult game.
        Words of knowledge and casting out demons.

        YouTube: – Baby Abigail BORN DEAF
,     ,     CAN HEAR in Jesus name
. 
        Moving & powerful healing, & testimony. 

        YouTube: – UNABLE TO FUNCTION with ADD all her life.
            1 year later shares her incredible testimony
.
        Testimony of a miraculous healing.

        YouTube: – Snake spirit manifests in meeting.
,     ,     Cause of severe anger & marriage disunity
. 
        Disturbing, but educational, deliverance.
        It saves their marriage.
        Also healing
. 

        YouTube: – SURPRISE! Day after prayer she weighs less.
        Word of knowledge, miraculous healing, & testimony.

        YouTube: – Girl sees Jesus
,     ,     and smells the heavenly flowers, set free of fear
.
        A delightful miracle, and very educational.

        YouTube: – A MIRACLE: brain damage,
,     ,     suicidal, slurred speech
.
        Miraculous deliverance, healing, and testimony.

        YouTube: – DEMONS causing schizophrenia & depression. 
        1st person: Powerful, educational, deliverance & healing.
        Anointing a prayer helper so that she can properly help.
        2nd person: Deliverance, & powerful healing of the mind.
        All very educational
. 

       
YouTube: – IMPOSSIBLE!! No ear drum DEAF 83 years
,     ,     SHE HEARS in Jesus name!
. 
        Healing & progressive healing.
        Also an elderly Christian lady’s lack of fear of death,
        indeed her optimism
. 

        YouTube: – THE MIGHTY POWER OF JESUS CHRIST
            BLASTS THE DEMON OUT OF HER
.
        Brilliant video.
       
At  2m 30s  Mark compares casting out a demon
        to loading & firing a gun.


        YouTube: – Doctor: 'SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR KIDS'.
            Gina had a badly perforated stomach
.
        Testimony of a healing of multiple illnesses.

        YouTube: – SEVERE STUTTERING
,     ,     VIRTUALLY UNABLE TO SPEAK ALL HIS LIFE
. 
        Deliverance, healing, instant radical change. 

        YouTube: – EX-LESBIAN SHARES HER STORY
,     ,     of a changed life
.
        The implication is that homosexuality is a sin.
        This video includes a fascinating instance
        of God's Spirit working through a photo!
        [Perhaps also see my section,
        MORE ON HOMOSEXUALITY,,,
        and its two subsections.]

        YouTube: – 13 year old GIRL BLIND
,     ,     IN LEFT EYE can read! Jesus still heals the blind.

        Miraculous healing & testimony;
        includes lessons on waiting on the Lord, and on faith.

        YouTube: – Badly curved back
,     ,     CRACKS & PULLED STRAIGHT
,     ,     by the power of God. SHE GROWS TALLER!!
. 
        Testimony of healing from an earlier meeting.
        Then physical healing
        and God's fascinating use of a prayer helper
. 

        YouTube: – SHOCKING! BLIND,
,     ,     STABBED in the EYE with a fork.

            Perfect vision in Jesus Name
.
        Miraculous healing & testimony.

        YouTube: – GOLF SIZE MOUTH TUMOUR
,     ,     BECOMES LIKE HOT DRIPPING WAX
. 
        Deliverance, and healing of various physical problems.
        The cause of it all was a generational curse
. 

        YouTube: – Spiritually blind from a demon in the eyes.
        Casting out a demon and a testimony.

        YouTube: – CAN'T FIND THE METAL in his fused back.
            IMPOSSIBLE TO BEND OVER!! Bends over in Jesus Name
.
        Miraculous healing & testimony.

        YouTube: – HOW DEMONS CAN STOP
            the EXPRESSING or RECEIVING OF LOVE,
            damaging family & marriage relationships
.
        Miraculous healing & testimony;
        Mark gets someone to help him
        by way of that person casting out their own demon!


        YouTube: – MOTHER GETS HER BOY BACK
,     ,     from demon: drugs, hatred, sex addiciton
.
        Miraculous healing, prophesy, and testimony.

        YouTube: – DEAF & MUTE FROM BIRTH HEALED:
,     ,     mission to the persecuted church
.
        Miraculous healing, prophesy, and testimony,

        YouTube: – For 28 years could not read a book.
            Felt the nerves in his brain heal: autism, dyslexia, dyspraxia.
 
        Miraculous healing & testimony. 

        YouTube: – PROPHECY REVEALS:
,     ,     FLIRTING, MARRIAGE VIOLATION,
,     ,     GIRLFRIEND OBSESSION, & DIVORCE PAIN
.
        Extremely interesting video.
        &:
   
    YouTube: – PROPHECY REVEALS HIDDEN SECRETS
,     ,     of abuse, violence, witchcraft
.
        Another extremely interesting video.

            N.B. When on Earth, Jesus,
       
    as well as miraculously healing people,
            would have had to have counselled people,
            just like Mark Hemans did in the above two videos,
            if it was needed, to prevent relapses etc.

            E.G. John c5 v5-14.

        There are more videos like these on YouTube.


You may ask: “Why do so many Christians, of all people,
have demons that need to be cast out of them?”


I suspect that people, who have a demon in them,
believers & unbelievers, sense there’s something wrong:
        It’s something that doctors wouldn’t detect
        or diagnose satisfactorily.
Hence they intuitively go to church,
perhaps becoming believers,
or perhaps having been believers for years.

Indeed, I reckon that most/all people have a demon:
        though only near them,
        hanging around,
        waiting to verbally encourage them
        if/when they do anything wrong.

        Hence, whenever someone responds positively
        to the demon’s verbal encouragements,
        they are inadvertently encouraging the demon
        to continue to hang around & speak.
        It’s the converse of
Jam c4 v7.,,,

        Hence those who do this a lot
        are unwittingly allowing the demon
        into their lives even more,
        to influence them even more,
        to rebuild their minds even more.
  2 Cor c10 v4-5,,,

Mark inadvertently demonstrates
that demons manifest (do something obvious) 
only when they see someone about to cast them out.
It’s a last ditch effort to make the minister fearful.
For even a little fear constitutes unbelief (doubt, in the mind),
and unbelief counteracts belief (in the heart & mind).
See:
UNBELIEF IS A BREAK IN THE CIRCUIT. ,,,


Indeed, one distinct thing about Pentecostal practices
is that God’s work is visible, therefore clearer to follow:
       
o   When God’s Spirit is in you,
            healing you, physically or mentally,
            you may:
                     feel God’s Spirit in you, shake, fall,
                     laugh with joy, feel hot 
Luke c3 v16. ,,,
                     (In
Mark c5 v24-34 v31 ,,,
                    the people crowding round Jesus
                     would not have been so confused
                     had they been falling over when touching him.)
       
o   It often takes a conspicuous amount of time
            to cast out a demon
            (though no more than minutes)
            and the person feels it. 
Matt c3 v11 ,,,
       
o   There may be demonic poison vomited out at the end.
            (Perhaps that’s:
            ‘If I can’t have him/her then no-one can’.)
       
o   (Some of the) people actually see:
                 Jesus,
                 the glory cloud,
                 angels,
                 demons.
       
o   Etc.

        None of these events needs to be visible.
        But God allowing, or making, them visible
        is, in my opinion, edifying and useful.



        N.B. People who have only ever seen the natural
        may not be able to tell
        if a supernatural healing was from God or demons.

        Perhaps again see: TRICKS & MIRACLES.
        and the links within it.
,         ,         This link does not open up a new tab.)



With non-Pentecostals
(Andrew Wommack, Dan Mohler, etc):
        The same miraculous events happen
        but you don’t see or feel them.
        (Though sometimes you do,
          YouTube: – Dan Mohler - first demonic experience.)


One key difference, is that,
with non-Pentecostal ways:
        The healer often:
                 Relies on his/her renewed, God-like, mind.
                 Largely directs God’s healing.
                 Largely decides what happens
                 with the exception of a few words of knowledge.
But with Pentecostal ways:
        God directs the healing,
        indeed directs everything.


Andrew Wommack has a joke that,
in case his students think or say:
        “I won’t pray for, or command healings for, people
         unless I feel led.”
he gives them each a lump of lead,
to keep in their pocket,
so that they can feel it.
Andrew explains:
        “It’s true that, some of the time, we are led.
        But don’t restrict yourself to doing nothing until you’re led.”


An offshoot of Pentecostal healing is mass healing.
See two cells starting:
Some Christians heal.,,,


As I mentioned earlier,
Andrew’s teachings and Mark’s ministry
complement each other.

        As Andrew sometimes says:


        o   I teach you to miraculously heal yourself
            and others of course.


        o   The purpose of
            ministries like Mark’s, whether Zoom or live,
            is that you may be near death
            and so not have time to learn to heal yourself.

        THREE LONG VIDEOS OF:
        MARK’S PREACHING & TEACHING
        FOLLOWED BY MIRACLES & TESTIMONIES.


        YouTube: – Holland Revival Miracle Meetings
            powerful anointing, demons manifest,

            miracles, God's fire, drugs.
,,,
               Very impactful ministry.  Watch all of it.
               At 39m 50s  Mark says that he used to think that, somehow,

               he’d have to press-in to come into God's presence,

               but that, one day, the Lord showed him that the way is open

               because of the Cross.  Also – many great miracles.


        YouTube: – Sunshine Coast Highlights:
            Bulimia, visually impaired, fibromyalgia,

            walking sticks, demons cast out
.
               At  21m 05s  Mark speaks of his missionary days
               in
Paraguay, about sowing in faith.
               From:  32m 50s  to  35m 09s  Mark tells us to
               not be afraid of failure, and then expands on that. 
               At  38m 16s  Mark explains, using 
John c5 v1-9,
               his practice of locating people,
               or rather, the Spirit locating people.
               At  42m 00s  Mark explains why he
               blows onto the microphone.
               From then on a load of amazing miracles.

        YouTube: – ADELAIDE HIGHLIGHTS
            have you EVER SEEN a meeting like it?

            joy, miracles, deliverance, fire baptism!
.
               The preaching & teaching starts well
               then
gets even better.
               At  35m 20s  to  39m 40s,  there is the unusual miracle
               of someone's soul being given strength:
               being changed, to do God's work.
               At  44m 44s  Mark tells a man to obey the Holy Spirit,
               even the little instructions,
               because they may be vital steps
               on the way to big events, to miracles.
               From   1hr 15m 10s   to   1hr 16m 44s
               Mark explains why his services are the way they are.

        I’ve put more videos of Mark’s preaching & teaching,
        followed by miracles & testimonies,
        in the ‘overflow’ webpage:
       
More Mark Hemans’ teaching & ministry.,,,

        TWO MEDIUM LENGTH VIDEOS OF:
        MARK’S PREACHING & TEACHING,
        BUT WITHOUT MIRACLES & TESTIMONIES.


        YouTube: – MAKE NO PROVISION FOR THE FLESH.
            There is victory over sin
.
               An extraordinarily enlightening teaching.
               Part of it (10m 39s   to   11m 44s)
               is Mark explaining how he does what he does:
                      Mark says that the fear of God
                      is the basis for obeying him.

                     
[Personally, I see the New Testament as more important
                      than the Old Testament, not equally important.
                      Hence, for me, it’s the fear of God’s absence
                      rather than the fear of God’s presence
                      that is my basis for obeying him.]


                      Mark loves Jesus, doesn’t sin, stays holy,
                      and doesn’t bother with the world.
                      Hence the Holy Spirit lives in him  [
because of Jesus]
                      fully and continuously 
[because of Mark].
                      So Mark then merely says or does
                      whatever the Holy Spirit tells him to say or do:
                      no more, no less: simple.
                     
[Australians are already uncomplicated people I reckon.]


        YouTube: – Walking in the Spirit
            is to surrender to Jesus in our daily decisions
.,,,
               Vital teaching.
               At 3m 22s Mark asks us if we’d ever done something
               that seemed right to us, at the time,
               but it turned out a total failure?

               Yes?

               Mark then adds that it was because we needed
               the principle shown, in the book of Acts.   
Acts c15 v28.   
               The principle that, when some action/proposal seems good to you,
               that you should ask the Lord if it seems good to him too.

               Mark adds the warning to be careful of filtering his voice
               through your own fleshly desires: what you’d like to see happen.

               At 14m Mark recounts how a pastor once asked his advice
               about pastoring a church.
               Mark replied “Don't please people.  Please God.”

               At 14m 40s Mark insists that, if you're really sick, say with cancer:
                      Have some backbone.
                      Stand up to all the unbelievers in your family
                      who are expecting you to drop dead,
                      who are planning your funeral.
                      Believe the word of God.

               He finishes this point by saying that he’s speaking
               from personal experience.

               Likewise, at 15m 9s, Mark advises young unmarried believers,
               whose girlfriend/boyfriend wants them to have sex,
               to be strong and say: “No”.
               To please God, and wait until you’re married.

               Continuing on the subject of intimate control,
               at 21m, Mark says to beware of ‘prophetic manipulation’:
                      people wanting you to do
                      what they want you to do
                      but they put it in the form of “God spoke to me”.

                      Consider what their motive(s) might be.

               Bottom line:
                      Don't let other people make your decisions for you.
                      Be directed by the Holy Spirit.

               At 25m 21s Mark says that God’s not going to act, in your life:
               in a way that feels nice, all the time.

                      The Son of man had nowhere to lay his head,
                      and got tired & thirsty,
                      even though he was doing his Father’s will.

                      Likewise, while you are doing God’s will,
                      you too could find life hard
                      and be persecuted. 
[John c15 v20],,,

        I’ve put more videos of Mark’s preaching & teaching,
        where he didn’t include miracles & testimonies,
        in the ‘overflow’ webpage:
       
More Mark Hemans’ teaching.,,,

        JESUS ENCOUNTER MINISTRIES (JEM)
        WORSHIP TEAM


        YouTube: – PRAISE & WORSHIP:
            Jesus Encounter Ministries (JEM)

            worship team. Meeting 8
.  

        There are more such videos on YouTube.

.

Smith Wigglesworth, 1859-1947, Pentecostal.
 
Smith seems to have been only a preacher,
not a teacher.
        Perhaps again see:
       
What’s the Difference Between Preaching and Teaching?
,              By Andrew Wilson | Monday 13 May 2013
.

But, if you read Smith’s preaching:
        not in an earthly frame of mind
        but in a Godly frame of mind,
you realise that, actually, he taught much.


        Perhaps see my deductions
        in last four cells
        (starting
This is how Smith Wigglesworth lived)
        of section:
PRAYING & FASTING.

        YouTube: – God's Generals Series - Smith Wigglesworth.
        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Kenneth Copeland retells
,              Smith Wigglesworth raising a man from the dead

        Testimony.
,         ,         I don’t properly include, on this page, Kenneth Copeland himself
,         ,         for reasons I give later.


        YouTube: – Ultimate Documentary On Smith Wigglesworth
        Valuable teaching: from 33m to 46m.


        AZ Quotes of Smith Wigglesworth
        Some revealing, powerful, tips.


        Smith Wigglesworth (link repeated from earlier). ,,
       
His site.

        Wikipedia: Smith Wigglesworth. ,,

        Regarding the origin of his anointing:
        Smith Wigglesworth received his anointing,
        by impartation, from a woman, Mary Boddy.

        Mind you, he did not then think of her
        as his spiritual mother.
        Nor sought her teaching in particular.

 
                Smith was tough as old boots
                (well, tough on the outside anyway),
                and really spiritually thirsty.
                He logically barged his way through Christendom
                to find God wherever he could be found.

                Obviously, any anointer, by definition,
                has an intuitive insight of infinite value.
                But if you, the anointee,
                by definition, now also have that insight,
                then you may do well to be taught by
                 someone else,
                 or let only God himself teach you.

                An ideal example of what I mean would be
                if you were anointed by:
                         A young teenager.
                         Or someone of simple soul
                         even though anointed.


        See:
Biography Mary Boddy. ,,

        Also: International Christian Women's
,         ,         ,         ,         History Project & Hall of Fame
. ,,
                Go to  Lesson 4  and click on  WATCH.

                 This will take you to:
                
YouTube: – Lesson 4: Searching the Source of the River,
                 where, at  18m 36s, Pastor Thomas Ball Barratt
                 anointed Mary Boddy.
                 Then, at  21m 36s, Mary Boddy
                 anointed Smith Wigglesworth.

        All this makes me wonder who was/were
        the first to be anointed, presumably directly, by God,
        roughly 200 years ago.
        For the anointing, as we know it today,
        doesn’t seem to have existed between Bible times
        and roughly 200 years ago.

        Perhaps also see:
Smith Wigglesworth, his site.
        click on: His Life
        then: Baptism in the Holy Spirit.


        The two books of Smith Wigglesworth’s
        excellent sermons, from one-hundred years ago:
            Ever Increasing Faith
        and: 
            Faith That Prevails
        are, in my opinion, vital reading for any Christian.

        Or perhaps listen to the YouTube version:
       
YouTube: – Smith Wigglesworth Ever Increasing Faith.,,

        Smith’s
biography:
            Smith Wigglesworth: Apostle of Faith.
            by Stanley Howard Frodsham
        is extremely encouraging.


        Abbreviated combination of the above three books:
            Wigglesworth – The Complete Story.
           
by Julian Wilson (currently out of print),
        is also extremely encouraging.


,         ,         Perhaps get the above four books from a Christian site.
,         ,         I bought one copy from Amazon and it was wrongly assembled!

.

Bethel Church, Redding, California.
Miracles & teaching. 
American.

        Biblical, emotional, and logical.
        But (in parts) a spiritually immature church:
        still having a thirst for evidence of God!

        New Age is in some of the leaders’ pasts
        and seems to have left some/many with a desire to:
                 Identify God’s methods.
                 Then use those methods
                 so as to be on top of things
                 doing needed miracles.

        When it should be a desire to:
                 Be used by God.
                 Be at the bottom of things.
                 Hence, when God uses you,
                 even though it looks like
                 you are on top of things
                 doing needed miracles,
                 it’s actually God who is on top of things.

,         ,         ,         ,         This isn’t necessarily a pride problem.
,         ,         ,         ,         I reckon it’s more a symptom of being human,
,         ,         ,         ,         especially American human.
,         ,         ,         ,         Perhaps see I once checked out at bottom of this cell.


        Bill Johnson is the senior pastor at Bethel.

        YouTube: – Bill Johnson || DECEMBER 11, 2017 -
               What Jesus Accomplished Now || Teaching Truth
,,,
,         ,
         37m 15s   to   47m 30s   are particularly pithy.

        Good teaching – ‘Jesus redefined what a king is’.

,         ,         YouTube: – Bill Johnson -
,         ,         Creative Miracles At Bethel - Part 1
,,,
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – Bill Johnson -
               Creative Miracles At Bethel - Part 2
,,,
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – Bringing Heaven to Earth,,,
        God gives us much
        so that we can do good:
        naturally & miraculously.


Bethel, Hillsong, Elevation Church, etc, have
things of God, things that are valuable,
but also have flaws.

        The easy way to spot such flaws
        is to search for YouTube videos
        that are critical of those churches.

        However, also measure the critic
        (their motives, their ability, etc).
        Some criticisms are based, not on good theology,
        but on a mere bias of denomination.
                 See earlier three cells,
                 starting
Within dispensationalism,
                 and the links within them.
,         ,         ,         ,         This link does not open up a new tab.



I notice that many young American Christians
are more interested in:

       
o   The tangible:
                 God’s gifts, healing, manifestations,
                 feelings, signs & wonders, etc.

       
o   Rather than the abstract:
                 God, love, virtues, etc.

Even more so if they are ex-New Agers.

        I once checked out all European philosophers
        and all American philosophers.
        Roughly speaking:
                 The European ones were all abstract.
                 The American ones were all practical.

        I reckon the reasons are, historically:
                 genetic,
                 plus political freedom,
                 plus the many resources of a large country.

        Whatever the reasons
        I can only suppose they affect
        most Americans and most Europeans,
        in most areas of life & thought, including religion.

        This may be why young American Christians
        tend to be more interested in the tangible
        rather than the abstract.

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Heidi Baker, Mozambican (though originally American).

        YouTube: – Nov 16, 2017 Women on the Frontlines
,              HEIDI BAKER — Being FULLY FILLED With GOD's GLORY!

        Vital teaching & testimonies. The Bible reading
        and the preaching start at 30m 40s.


        YouTube: – "Knowing The Ways Of God" - Heidi Baker
        Vital teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Heidi Baker: Intimacy for Miracles - CBN.com
        Teaching & testimonies,  2008.


        YouTube: – 700 Club Interactive:
,              Follow Your Dreams - March 20, 2014

        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Heidi Baker on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural! |
,              Reckless Devotion

        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Heidi Baker - Intimacy with God
        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Heidi Baker's Testimony
        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Heidi Baker( Nov 11, 2017) -
,              Being Closer To Jesus And Knowing Him

        Teaching & testimonies.


        YouTube: – Heidi Baker( Nov 16, 2017) We Are Anointed
        Teaching & testimonies.


        There’s more of Heidi on YouTube.

Heidi’s website is:
   
    Heidi Baker  ( IRIS )
        Teaching & testimonies.

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Isabel Chapman, Scottish.

        God's Word To Women: Testimony of  Isabel Chapman
        Testimony & teaching.


        The above is the only internet presence
        that I can find of Isabel.
        But I recommend her excellent book:
Arise & Reap,
        (out of print – though I reckon it shouldn’t be;
        it would make a fantastic film).


        Don’t underestimate women biblical teacher-healers.
        Of all the biblical teacher-healers on this webpage
        God told only: Isabel Chapman, Heidi Baker,
        & Mark Hemans, to do missionary work
        in dangerous places.


        God told Isabel to go to the Philippines,
        to its inaccessible jungle areas,
        to preach to, & to miraculously heal,
        the head-hunting tribes there.
        But she didn’t yet know how to miraculously heal.


        So, when she arrived, in Manila,
        a young Kenneth Copeland was having a big
        healing meeting there.
        She attended, not because she was ill, but to learn.


        Many people were healed & saved at Kenneth’s meeting.
        But it was Isabel, not Kenneth, whom God had told
        to carry on travelling – to preach to,
        & to miraculously heal, the head-hunters.

        Their initiation into manhood was to bring back
        the head of a member of another tribe.
        They also worshipped idols & used black magic.

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John Mellor, Australian.

        YouTube: – Severely disabled boy miraculously healed
,              'Today Tonight' National News - John Mellor Miracles

        Testimony.


        YouTube: – Child in wheelchair suffering from painful
,              Köhler disease healed & runs - John Mellor Miracles

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Disabled woman in wheelchair
,              with cerebellum brain injury
,              healed & walks - John Mellor Healing

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Blind, disabled man in wheelchair healed
,              'Today Tonight' National News - John Mellor Miracles

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Keratoconus blindness miracle healing
,              John Mellor Australian Healing Ministry

        Testimony.


        YouTube: – Autistic child totally healed -
,              John Mellor Healing in Jesus' Name

        Testimony.


        YouTube: – Child born blind miraculously healed
,              & vision restored after prayer - John Mellor Healing Ministry

        Testimony.


        YouTube: – John Mellor - ‘Position Yourself
,              To Receive a Miracle’ Part 1

        Teaching.


        YouTube: – John Mellor - ‘Position Yourself
,              To Receive a Miracle’ Part 2

        Teaching.


        YouTube: – Healing teaching and demonstration -
,              John Mellor Ministries

        Miracle & teaching.


        YouTube: – John Mellor teaches on faith -
,              'Don't stop believing'

        Teaching.


        YouTube: – John Mellor teaching on healing -
,              what voices are you listening to?

        Teaching.


        YouTube: – John Mellor teaching on
,              persistent faith - never give up!

        Teaching.


        YouTube: – Some of the blockages to being healed -
,              John Mellor Ministries

        Teaching.


        YouTube: – Teaching about healing prayer -
,              John Mellor Healing Evangelist

        Miracle & teaching.


        YouTube: – Healing seminar teaching with demonstration
,              healing of painful spine - John Mellor Miracles

        Miracle & teaching.


There are more  ‘John Mellor teaching’ videos on YouTube.

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Pastor (Doctor) Kay Ijisesan, American I assume.

        YouTube: – Kingsword Everywhere ,,,
        Worship, testimonies, preaching & teaching, miracles. 
        Watch from 2hr 20m onwards
        for preaching & teaching, then miracles.


        There’s more of Dr Kay on YouTube.


       
Kingsword is the group of churches
        that Pastor Kay established.

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Tom Fischer, American I assume.

        YouTube: – Tom Fischer:
,              The Uncensored Street Healing Movie

        Miracles & teaching.


        YouTube: – Wonderful encounter on a NJ boardwalk
        Miracles & teaching.


        There’s more of Tom on YouTube.

        Thomas Fischer - Living the Miraculous
        All about the man and his ministry.


        Cardboard Box Church, Tom’s YouTube channel. ,,,

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Pete Cabrera Jr, American I assume.

        YouTube: – Get up and walk out of that wheel chair
,              in Jesus name

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Dead arm comes to life in Jesus Name
        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Busted ankle restored
        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Streets of Frankfurt Germany with Pete Cabrera Jr
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – Dorthie get up and walk WOW!
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – What no Doctor could do JESUS!!
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – 16 rods in her back
        Miracles.


        YouTube: – How to start living in the Spirit made simple
        Teaching.


        There’s more of Pete on YouTube.

        Pete Cabrera Jr’s YouTube channel.,,,

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Tom Loud, American I assume.

        Pete Cabrera Jr (see previous cell)
        has inspired a pastor called Tom Loud:


        YouTube: – The day I learned NOTHING from Pete Cabrera Jr !
        Teaching.


        YouTube: – Pain level 10, Doctors couldn't heal her,
,              so Jesus Did!!!!

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Breast Cancer Tumor Vanishes in Jesus Name !
,              - Tom Loud

        Miracle.


        YouTube: – Wrist with metal rod healed; soul saved;
,              Jesus Glorified ! -Tom Loud

        Miracle.


        There’s more of Tom on YouTube.

        Tom’s church:
       
Shoreline Full Gospel Fellowship. ,,,

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Nathan Morris, British.

Nathan Morris is an inspiring biblical preacher-healer
(I say preacher-healer because I haven’t found
any teaching yet.  But there may be some somewhere):


        YouTube: – Face to Face with Nathan Morris
        Life story, testimony, & more.


        YouTube: – Nathan Morris/Blind girl begins to see
,              @ Bay Revival, Ohio

        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Woman Gets Healed
,              After Being Paralyzed For 23 Years

        Miracle.
        and:
       
YouTube: – Delia Knox Testimony
,              at Bay of the Spirit Revival Pt 1
.
        and:
       
YouTube: – Delia Knox Testimony Part 2.

       
YouTube: – Deaf Woman Healed in Creative Miracle
,              @ Bay of the Holy Spirit Revival

        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Blind boy healed
,              at Bay of the Holy Spirit Revival

        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Baby Boy healed in Lake Charles.mov
        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Deaf baby healed at Bay of the Holy Spirit Revival
        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Mother & daughter both healed @ Bay Revival
        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Young boy with cancer touched @ Bay Revival
        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Young deaf boy healed @ Bay Revival
        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Young girl with heart arrhythmia
,              & on a feeding tube
,              healed @ Bay Revival, Ohio

        Miracle.
        Also see:
AVERTING DISASTERS. ,,,

       
YouTube: – Woman who had 5 strokes
,              is healed @ Bay Revival

        Miracle.


       
YouTube: – Alanna's Story from the Bay Revival
        Miracle.


        There’s more of Nathan on YouTube.


       
Nathan Morris - Shake The Nations Ministries, 
,              his YouTube channel
. ,,,

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Here’s a variety of biblical preacher/teacher-healers
that I’ve discovered.
Some I’m familiar with.  Some I barely know.
But I reckon they’re all OK.

       
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome PhD:
,              his TV channel’s site (Loveworld UK)

        Miracles & teaching. 
        Nigerian.
   
            In 2008 I went to his first ever UK meeting,
                 in
London, and saw miracles
                 (I’d only seen them on TV before).
   
            I liked his books: Praying The Right Way
                 and None Of These Diseases,
                 which were the start of my
                 understanding of the miraculous.

        Evangelist Rambabu -Rambo - Home | Facebook  
        Teaching/miracles.  
        Indian.
        Also try YouTube.


        Wisdom Ministries (Nasir Siddiki)  
        Teaching.
        Canadian.
        Entirely biblical, but also logical (rather than emotional).
        Also try YouTube.

        New Creation Church (Joseph Prince)  
        Click ‘video messages’.
        Teaching.
        Singaporean.
        Entirely biblical, yet also logical.
        Also try YouTube.

        Prophetic Vision (David Hathaway)  
        Miracles & teaching.
                 British.
                Also try YouTube.

        John & Carol Arnott.  American I assume.
                YouTube: – John & Carol Arnott LIVE with Sid Roth
       
        Teaching & testimonies.

                YouTube: – AIMG TV - Miracles & Healing Night -
,                            april 14, 2018 with John Arnott

       
        Teaching, miracles, & testimonies.

        Christ for all nations: Reinhard Bonnke & Daniel Kolenda
        Reinhard: German, 1940-2019.  Daniel: Zimbabwean.
        Simple but effective, big-meeting evangelists/preachers.

                YouTube: – Blind Woman Healed
,                            in front of 200,000 People!  (Daniel Kolenda)

                 Miracle.


   
            YouTube: – Watch This Miracle! Regina Atta.
,
                            (Reinhard Bonnke)

                 Testimony.

This cell consists of various historical
biblical
preacher/teacher-healers:

       
YouTube: – God's Generals,
,              Why they Succeeded and Why Others Failed

        Historical teaching & testimonies
        compiled by Roberts Liardon.
                 A five-hour video of historical
                 biblical teacher-healers:


                 Starting with: Smith Wigglesworth
                 (video repeated from earlier).
                 Kathryn Kuhlman.   A. A. Allen.   Jack Coe.
                 Evan Roberts.   John Alexander Dowie.
                
John G. Lake.   Maria Woodworth Etter.
                 Oral Roberts.   William Branham.
                 William J. Seymour.   Charles F. Parham.


        Or, if you want to see all the above
        but broken down into individual programmes
        then see the videos in:
       
YouTube: – Roberts Liardon God's generals.

                 Perhaps also see:
                
YouTube: – Kathryn Kuhlman
,                            How to Be Filled and Controlled By the Holy Spirit
.
                 Teaching.



       
YouTube: – AIMEE SEMPLE MCPHERSON ||
,              POWER OF FAITH || SERMON VAULT
 
        Teaching.


                
YouTube: – Aimee Semple McPherson  
                 Historical teaching & testimonies
                 compiled by Roberts Liardon.


                
Wikipedia: Aimee Semple McPherson. ,,,


       
YouTube: – Azusa Street Revival
,              Eyewitness Accounts-Pentecostal History

        An 18 minute interview with people who were there.

I’m sure there are many other biblical teacher-healers,
with or without a media presence, that I haven’t mentioned.

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I don’t include Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, etc,
on this webpage at all.
 
I can see that their ministries are effective
(Benny Hinn’s book, Good Morning Holy Spirit is quite good).
But they love money, which is un-Christian (anti-Christian?)
and done-but-wrong even by the world’s standards.
1 Tim c6 v6-12,,,Acts c2 v38-47,,,1 Cor c9,,,Phili c4 v4-13,,,

        1 John c2 v15-17:
        Love not the world,
        neither the things that are in the world.
        If any man love the world,
        the love of the Father is not in him.
        For all that is in the world,
            the lust of the flesh,
            and the lust of the eyes,
            and the pride of life,
        is not of the Father, but is of the world.
        And the world passeth away,
        and the lust thereof:
        but he that doeth the will of God
        abideth for ever.  
KJV

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Apostle Kathryn Krick, American.

I discovered Kathryn last of all.

In rough chronological order, I discovered:
   
o   Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Pentecostal.
   
o   Andrew Wommack.
   
o   Dan Mohler.
   
o   Various others.
   
o   Smith Wigglesworth, 1859-1947.
   
o   Mark Hemans.
   
o   Kathryn Krick.

I’m seen her seventeen videos:
YouTube: – The Secret of the Anointing, ,,
and read her book of the same name.
It’s mostly good stuff,
especially the last three chapters of the book
(she’s since published another).

But her understanding of the Bible doesn’t seem broad yet.

Also (unlike
Mark Hemans,  Heidi Baker,  Isabel Chapman)
she hasn’t had a long & substantial walk with the Lord yet.
But she is studying the Bible, pastoring, preaching,
teaching, and doing miracles.
‘Do’ is the verb used in the KJV.  Though, obviously, we can do miracles only because
Jesus’ Crucifixion earned us: God’s Fatherhood, and the Holy Spirit. 
Acts c3 v12 & v16,,,


Born about 1994, a pastor & apostle since about 2017,
anointed & doing miracles since only early 2021,
she has her own church
and is rapidly gaining a large internet ministry.

I see:
   
o    the miracles God does through her,
   
o   her Godly passion for people to be saved and healed,
   
o   her leadership
and so think of her as, not a trainee apostle
(that’s too ‘only half-way there’),
but an apostle who’s still learning.

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Paul writes that Christ appeared to him
after he’d also appeared
to all the other apostles. 
1 Cor c15 v1-11 ,,

That implies that, to be an apostle,
you had to be someone who’d seen the risen Jesus.

And there are more such biblical statements.
Matt c10 v1-4   Luke c6 v13-16   Acts c1 v21-26 ,,


However, none of the statements were phrased in a way
that showed they had the future in mind:
        They were, like most statements,
        referring to the then present.
        Were simply stating things the way they were.

Nor am I convinced by scriptural tests:
        Seen Jesus personally?
                 (So what?  Treacherous enemies saw him too.)
        and heard his teachings personally?
                 (They weren’t written, now they are.)
        and seen the  miracles he himself did while on Earth?
                 (Will miracles that he causes today not do?)
It all seems unnecessarily limiting.

I suspect that the problem is
that people tend to use the words apostle and prophet
in a worldly way:
   
o   positions of power & privilege,
   
o   self-important,
   
o   able to, in effect, continue writing Jesus’ biblical words,
instead of what apostles actually are:
   
o   lead servants,
   
o   beneath Jesus’ biblical words,
   
o   the enemy’s number one target Heb c11 v1 – c12 v3. ,

So, as long as they are genuine,
I don’t see why there shouldn’t be apostles & prophets
in the Church today (not that I know any).

However, I see apostles today
as leading the Church
in a relatively small, &/or relatively local, way.

        The Bible was completed long ago
        and is now in print, is even online.
        YouTube is here, providing much teaching, good & bad,
        and even the possibility of miracles on Zoom.
        Christianity has spread,
        is not actually unknown anymore,
        though, in some nations, it still is.

        Hence, though the early Church needed, & so had,
        a small number of generals,
        it is now large, complex, & unwieldy,
        and so needs many commandos.

,         ,         The similarities between the army & the Church are:
,         ,         ,         O,      A gratitude for the treasure you’re protecting.
,         ,         ,         O,,     A wanting to duplicate that treasure elsewhere.
,         ,         ,         O,      Discipline and self-discipline.
,         ,         ,         O,      Bravery and self-sacrifice.
,         ,         ,         O,      Industry & teamwork.
,         ,         ,         O,      Etc.

,         ,         The difference, in these New Testament times, is:
,         ,         ,         O, ,    One is destructive,
,         ,         ,         ,         the other is constructive.

As for prophets today:

        In the light of Jesus’ warning:
           
    Matt c24  v24    (Mark c13  v22):
                 For there shall arise
                 false Christs, and false prophets,
                 and shall shew great signs and wonders;
                 insomuch that, if
it were possible,
                 they shall deceive the very elect
.   KJV

        I’m glad that the internet provides us with
        constant scrutiny of prophets & apostles.

        But this may mean you
        occasionally looking at
        YouTubes etc:
                 That are the opposite of
                 what you normally look at.
                 That are critical of
                 what you normally look at.
        so that you don’t get stuck in an echo chamber.

        (N.B. Jesus’ warning only makes sense
        if there are also real prophets today.)

I reckon that New Testament apostles & prophets
must think of themselves as fundamentally different
from their Old Testament equivalents:

        Actually, a New Testament apostle
        has no equivalent in the Old Testament.

        As for New Testament prophets:
                 all the big events have either already happened
                 or have already been written in the Bible.

                 Hence a New Testament prophet
                 has relatively little to do.

                 Indeed, if more Christians
                 prioritised their life right,
                 then God would be more able to direct them
                 and there’d be even less need
                 for New Testament prophets.

        Most importantly,
        see later cell:
As far as I can tell ,,,
        and the links within it.
,         ,         This link does not open up a new tab.

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Kathryn’s learning by experience
and is keen to convey her discoveries to us,
which is excellent.

For example, the video:
YouTube: – Maintaining the Anointing: Keeping Jesus First, ,,
contains new, good, material.
Though not fundamentally new, good, material
(everyone else on this webpage knows & teaches this stuff)
so I reckon she shouldn’t use the word secret.
 
But she has a good, new, feminine, perspective. 
 
At 13m 30s she says she was baptised in the Holy Spirit
which immediately led to her surrendering her entire life
to Jesus for the first time.
 
A
t 16m to 17m 30s, she says that,
on about
Sept 14th 2016,
GeorDavie prophesied over her.


At 49m she says that four years later,
on
Dec 30th 2020,
she posted a video, of God doing miracles through her,
and it went viral, and her ministry took off.

Kathryn’s preaching, at  35m 43s – 38m 04s, 
was just waiting for an anointed woman
to come along and say it.

        Just as a good, unbelieving, woman
        is all about:
           
o   Teamwork.
           
o   Encouraging others.
           
o   Attracting & inspiring other women,
        so Kathryn, a believing & anointed woman,
        is all about:
           
o   The congregation taking the anointing home.
           
o   Encouraging others to minister.
           
o   Attracting & inspiring other believers,
                 especially women, to do as she does.

        Hence her ministry is refreshingly different
        from typical men’s ministries.

She argues in favour of women in ministry in the video:
YouTube: – Women In Ministry? And Other Questions |
@Apostle Kathryn Krick
. ,,

And even Cliffe Knechtle argues, indeed biblically proves,
that Christian women can at least teach:
YouTube Shorts: – Cliffe Knechtle:
Are Women NOT allowed to TEACH men in the Bible?
. ,,

I reckon that Christian women can preach as well as teach
but that many cannot pastor.
But I also reckon that many Christian men cannot pastor.
Hence I reckon that the gender argument is silly.
If you’re good at something you’re good at something.
If you’re not you’re not.

I suppose the ultimate pastor
is a mature intelligent Christian married couple;
who love God, love their flock, and love the lost;
who are empathetic yet confident;
who expect the miraculous & so see it 
John c14 v11-17;
who’ve both lived in the world before they came to Christ;
who both understand each other’s different strengths
and, by now, have no weaknesses;
who are humble enough to tap into
the experience of others of different backgrounds;
etc.
That sort of thing.

Perhaps see:
YouTube: – Who is Kathryn Krick?. ,,,

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The first quarter of an hour of:
YouTube: – How to receive Impartation ,,
is a good introduction to Kathryn’s ministry.

Perhaps also see:

Apostle Kathryn Krick / about, her story. ,,


In my opinion:

   
o   Kathryn’s sermons are well prepared
        and/or God inspired.

        But, in terms of cause & effect:
                 I reckon that there are two basic causes
                 to being anointed,
                 both of them vital.

        1)     The Son of a human & God
                 suffered & died in place of all other humans
                 to enable the Holy God
                 to give his Holy Spirit
                 to all other humans.

,         ,         ,         ,         Mind you, do you want:
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         God’s Holy Spirit, whom Jesus earned for, & gave to, all of us?
,         ,         ,         ,         And do you want:
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         to become a home fit for him to live in & work from?

,         ,         ,         ,         Just like, do you want:
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         the righteousness that Jesus earned for, & gave to, all of us,
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         instead of your own righteousness?

        2a)    Asking an anointed human to anoint you:
                     Old Testament:
1 Kings c19 v16. ,
                     New Testament:
Acts c9 v17   2 Tim c1 v6. ,

        2b)    Asking God to anoint you directly:
                     Old Testament:
Judg c3 v10   Judg c6 v34   etc.
                     New Testament:
Acts c2 v2-6   (Luke c11 v5-23).


        Kathryn mentions 2a) often.
        But mentions 2b) less, and 1) even less.

        Whereas all three are vital, so I reckon
        all three should be given significant mention.


   
o   Turbocharged prayer helpers may prevent/solve
        problems that shouldn’t be there in the first place
        and that critics spot.
       
YouTube: – I Went to a Kathryn Krick Event
,         ,         (Revival Now, Denver) and Here's What Happened
. ,,

                 Mark Hemans anoints (temporarily?)
                 his prayer helpers.
                 Search for prayer helpers in:
                         this webpage,
                         and in:
                        
More Mark Hemans’ teaching & ministry, 
                         and in:
                        
More Mark Hemans’ teaching. 

                 I suppose Kathryn does indeed anoint people
                 but they’re then left to go home to minister;
                 she doesn’t seem to have prayer helpers.


   
o   I realise Kathryn needs money to minister.
        See 1hr 17m 36s 
        of:
YouTube: – A Heart That God Searches For. ,,

        But
us ‘sowing a seed’, giving money,
        in order for, to cause, God to give, to us:
                 material goods
                 or his Holy Spirit,
        is always wrong.

       
Matt c6 v19-34   Luke c12 v13-34,,,

                 Sow, by all means.
                 But don’t sow like a normal farmer,
                 so as to benefit yourself.
                         That sort of sowing is like the world.
                         And the attitude you need to do it
                         is like the attitude of the world.
                 Whereas God is The Creator and The Constructor.
                 So, be like God, not like the world:
                 sow selflessly, so as to benefit others.
                 If you need material goods or the Holy Spirit
                 just ask God.
   Matt c7 v7-14   Luke c11 v5-13,,

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Kathryn often says that she could never leave
her spiritual father.

Just like, in the Old Testament, Elisha never left Elijah
but instead stuck like glue – in an extreme
pupil-teacher relationship.

        But I say that Jesus said
        that we should not have
        spiritual fathers
[or mothers],
        said that only God could be, indeed is,
        our spiritual father. 
Matt c23 v8-12. ,,,

But Kathryn rightly points out, in the 5m video:
YouTube: – Are Spiritual Fathers & Mothers Biblical?, ,,
that the context of
Matt c23 v8-12 ,,,
is that we should simply not have
a wicked, Pharisee type, of person
as a spiritual father.
Perhaps see all of: Matt c23. ,,,


Kathryn also adds that Paul was
Timothy’s spiritual father. 
2 Tim c1 v6 ,,,

        However, I add that their relationship
       
would last for only a while. 1 Cor c1 v11-13 ,,,

        I also add that, Paul,
        having received his own anointing from Ananias,
       
Acts c9 v17 ,
        did not go back to Ananias
        to be taught by him.

        See the paragraphs starting
       
Regarding the origin of ,
        about Smith Wigglesworth
        and his spiritual mother.

Kathryn often speaks of higher level demons
needing a higher level anointing
to cast them out.

Now, I can see how there are
higher level demons. 
        Perhaps see: PYRAMIDS. ,,,
        Perhaps see second cell of: KNOW YOUR ENEMY. ,,,

But I’d rephrase higher level of anointing
as follows:

        You can’t have a higher level of anointing
        because you can’t have more of God.

        You can’t even have more faith in God. 
 Luke c17 v6 ,,,
 
        But you can have less unbelief in God. 
 Matt c17 v14-20 ,
        Perhaps see: UNBELIEF. ,,,

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As far as I can tell: the anointing,
or, to be exact,
the miraculous anointing (there are other anointings),
is God’s Holy Spirit, in a Christian, but manifesting power.

        All Christians contain God’s Holy Spirit (
Rom c8 v9) ,,
        to guide them, generally &/or specifically
        (not continuously of course, we’re not robots).
 
        But not all Christians are miraculously anointed.


I reckon that:
        m
iraculous anointings in Old Testament times
        were different from
        miraculous anointings in these New Testament times.

        God’s Holy Spirit is the same
        so the power is the same.
        But the human is different
        so the integration of the Holy Spirit with the human
        is different.

            In the Old Testament, the anointing had
power,
            but it was power to do bad as well as good:
,         ,         ,         Perhaps see: The good & bad that God does. , , , , ,

                 o   in order to mould the Jewish people
                     even at the expense of the Jewish people
                     and even at the expense of other peoples.

            In the New Testament, the anointing has power,
            but it is power to do only good:
,         ,         ,         Perhaps again see: The good & bad that God does. , , , , ,

                 o   To prove that what Jesus said is true.
                
o   To prove that
                    
Jesus’ Punishment in place of all of us
                     is true.
                 o   To bless people miraculously.
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         See: IN JESUS, THE FATHER REVEALS HIS HEART TO US.,,


            Hence, in the Old Testament, the anointing was:
                     only temporary,
                     so it was only on them.
            But in the New Testament
*, the anointing is:
                     permanent
                             (because Jesus bought God’s Spirit for us,
                             to live inside believers, forever),
                     so the anointing is in you.
                    
John c14 v16-27     Rom c8 v9    Heb c13 v5.,,

,         ,         ,         ,         ,         *By New Testament I mean post-Pentecost.
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         See part 4) of:
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         GOD DOES NOT CHANGE
,         ,         ,         ,         ,         BUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH US CHANGES
.,,


Hence I reckon that Kathryn should not model:
        New Testament examples
        (including real life examples today)
        of miraculous anointing & impartation
on:
        Old Testament examples
        of miraculous anointing & impartation
        (e.g. Elijah & Elisha).

As Kathryn says, there are two ways to receive
the miraculous anointing:

        Indirectly from God,
        i.e. impartation from an anointed human
        to an un-anointed human:
                 Old Testament: 
1 Kings c19 v16. ,
                 New Testament: 
Acts c9 v17   2 Tim c1 v6. .,

        Directly from God:
                 Old Testament: 
Judg c3 v10   Judg c6 v34   etc.
                 New Testament: 
Acts c2 v2-6   (Luke c11 v5-23).

Kathryn says that most examples
of receiving the miraculous anointing,
in the Old Testament and in these New Testament times,
are by impartation.

I then thought:
        “Nah, Jesus said ‘Simply ask God’”.
       
Luke c11 v5-23. ,
        “So, asking being simple, it must be popular,
        is probably the only way.”

However, looking at Jesus’ statement,
I can see that it’s not an exclusive statement:
        Jesus did not say that
        receiving directly from God
        is the only way.
 
I then researched & found out
that even
Smith Wigglesworth
received his anointing, by impartation,
from a woman, Mary Boddy.

Mind you, Smith did not then think of her
as his spiritual mother.
Nor sought her teaching in particular.

Perhaps again see the paragraphs
starting
Regarding the origin of ,,
about Smith Wigglesworth
and his spiritual mother.

Kathryn’s thoughtful teaching,
YouTube: – The Three Indwellings of the Holy Spirit, ,,
is not part of The Secret Of The Anointing series.

But it does give three practical definitions
of (successive) indwellings
of the Holy Spirit:
    1  You believe Jesus died for your sins.
        Hence God’s Spirit simply lives inside of you,
        guiding you, speaking to you.                     8m 30s
    2  You received the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
        Hence you now speak in tongues,
        do miracles, etc.                                       20m 45s
    3  You received the anointing.
        So you do miracles frequently,
        not occasionally. 
John c7 v38-39                 38m
,         ,       ‘Do’ is the verb used in the KJV.  (Though see Acts c3 v12 & v16.)


Perhaps this teaching was produced
entirely by her practical experiences.
But it fits in with 
Rom c8 v9  Acts c8 v14-17  Acts c5 v12-16.,,


However:
        the above video, at 40m 40s,
        and the top of page 68 of her book
        The Secret Of The Anointing,
not only say that:
        you need to show God
        that he can trust you to do good
        with the anointing,
but also that:
        you need to show God
        that he can trust you not to do bad
        with the anointing.

        The implication being
        that God can do bad
        in these New Testament times.

But I reckon that:
        God did both good and bad in Old Testament times.
        But, in these New Testament times, he does only good.
       
John c10 v10,,,

        See:
The good & bad that God does. ,,

        See first cell of:
       
GOD DOES NOT CHANGE
,      ,      BUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH US CHANGES
, ,,,
        and the links within it.
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        Mind you, this transition,
                 from: good & bad,
                 to: good,
        was not instant.
        See the section:
       
TO CONCLUDE: ALL THE BAD-YET-RIGHT THINGS
,      ,      THAT GOD DID, IN THIS CHURCH AGE,
,      ,      WERE EARLY ON
, ,,
        and the section after it.

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Perhaps see:
YouTube: – Life Story of Prophet Dr. GeorDavie. ,,

At  2m 22s  to  5m,
GeorDavie says that, when he was five years old,
he repeatedly told his maternal grandmother
(who, presumably, lived with/near him & his parents)
that she would die in five years’ time.

This, understandably, greatly angered his mother
and happened exactly as he said it would.
 
That such information is worthless and unedifying
is obvious to most people because of their empathy.
Why is edification important in the life of a Christian? ,,

But GeorDavie, as he recounts this story, laughs.

Kathryn follows suit, though perhaps only out of politeness
and a reverence for GeorDavie.

Either way, there was no:
    ‘putting themselves in his mother’s shoes’,
no:
    ‘brief change of tone’ in the conversation.

This lack of empathy could be a symptom of
a clinical condition.

GeorDavie’s ‘prophesy’ was not only worthless & unedifying.
It was also flashy and, more to the point, accurate.

Hence I reckon it was a demon telling him this information,
not God.

See:
TRICKS & MIRACLES ,,,
and:
SUPERNATURAL EVENTS
THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS SITE
. ,,,

Staying with:
YouTube: – Life Story of Prophet Dr. GeorDavie. ,,

At  5m 10s  to  6m 20s, again as a child,
GeorDavie accurately tells the driver of their bus
of imminent danger.

This could have been from God.
But it could equally have been from a demon:
   
o   For vanity’s sake
        (see first cell of
1) SPIRITUAL SINS ). ,,,
   
o   And for the sake of preserving GeorDavie.


At 7m 38s to 9m 45s, at aged five,
at 2am in the morning (so it was nighttime),
GeorDavie saw, in the sky, a father & son.
The father held the son's hand
and the son, a little boy, held a lamp.

GeorDavie enthusiastically asked his parents
if they could see it – but they couldn’t.
GeorDavie interpreted this scene as:
        "The father was Jesus
        and the little boy was me (GeorDavie),
        and the lamp was the word that I will carry
        as a light to the world."

        To see yourself, aged five:
                 as the ONLY one
                 who carries THE word,
        is understandable.

        But to still see yourself, in middle age:
                 as the ONLY one
                 who carries THE word,
        again, could be a symptom of a clinical condition.

Staying with:
YouTube: – Life Story of Prophet Dr. GeorDavie, ,,

At 13m to 17m 30s,
his parents threw him out of the house, aged 16,
for becoming a Christian
(presumably, up until then, he’d just had Christian ways).

Why?

Perhaps it raised the question in their minds that,
if he wasn’t a Christian before, then what had he been?
For, at 1m 45s, he says that his parents said
that he began to prophesy, aged five.

Perhaps, when he was five,
they didn’t know the difference between
an occult prediction and a Christian prophesy.
Certainly when he was five
he probably didn’t know the difference.

But by the time he’d got to middle age,
as a pastor, in
Africa of all places,
he’d know the difference.

So, in this interview,
why didn’t he add that his parents had been wrong
in calling it prophesy.

Whether he’s aware of the inconsistency or not
he speaks smoothly over it.

If he’s sociopathic, bear in mind that that’s not necessarily
a bad thing:

        T
he apostle Paul was a sociopath.
       
Perhaps see the four cells
        starting
You can have agape love,,,
        and
the links within them.
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YouTube: – Warning: 10 Signs To Spot A Sociopath. ,,

        Mind you, Paul did not also have
        a demon influencing him
        and counteracting God’s Spirit within him.
        (Though Paul would have had
        a demon influencing him earlier,
        when he was Saul.)

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Not so much in the 3 minute video:
YouTube: – Kathryn Krick's purpose in LA, ,,
but at 24m to 26m in:
YouTube: – Life Story of Prophet Dr. GeorDavie, ,,
Kathryn says that GeorDavie is humble.

He is
Hollywood humble,
to someone in his congregation humble,
to his family members humble.

But he isn’t someone outside your front door humble.
Nor, more to the point, New Testament humble.
   
o   He travels in a cavalcade of limousines.
,         ,         YouTube: – GeorDavie - Ziara "ARKATAN" (Official Trailer). ,,,
    o   He lives in an opulent mansion.
               Go to: Wikipedia: GeorDavie, ,,,
               then use the translate button when it appears,
               then use Google translate,
               then find the word palace,
               which leads to pictures of his home: GeorLanderCity.

    o   Etc.

Either Kathryn genuinely cannot see this,
or she can see it but is bending the truth
because she reveres him.

Conversely, she allows obsequious behaviour
in her own congregation (even if it is her birthday).
YouTube: – Apostle Kathryn Krick
celebrating her BirthDay, January 2024
, ,,
And, perhaps, that she doesn’t have prayer helpers:
,         ,         See earlier bullet point
,         ,         Turbocharged prayer helpers, ,,,
,         ,         and the links within it.
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Nor guest speakers/ministers.

This begs the question: Is Kathryn narcissistic,
if only to a (small) degree?
 

I’m no psychiatrist.
But one thing I’m sure about
is that,
when Christians have a clinical condition,
the condition is:
        of only the flesh; spiritually inert;
        regarding the world: a minus or a plus;
        in God’s hands: a plus.

        Perhaps again see the four cells
        starting
You can have agape love, ,,,
        and the links within them.
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Perhaps see:
YouTube: – Kathryn Krick love at first kiss. ,,
The above short video makes it obvious
that having a Christian family
had been a priority for Kathryn
(along with being a professional
Christian singer & music writer).

The following short video shows that she believes that
not marrying is a sacrifice she needed to make
for the sake of her ministry:
a sacrifice she sees as worth it,
such is the value of her ministry.
YouTube: – KATHRYN KRICK OPENS UP
ON WHY SHE CAN’T HAVE A KID & HUSBAND!
. ,,

Paul, though he was himself asexual,
wrote that any Christian can marry.
See:
THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS ASEXUAL. ,,,
 
However, in
1 Cor c9 (v5), Paul adds that ,
many a sacrifice is worth making 
for the sake of ministering the gospel:
including a heterosexual Christian remaining single.

Also see:
MARRY OR STAY SINGLE?. ,,,

Also see
Example 2). ,,,

Hence I assume that:
        It was Kathryn herself
        who made the decision to stay single
        based on the above logic.
and/or:
        It was God who told Kathryn to not marry
        again according to the above logic.

But she wears a Tanzanite ring,
presumably given to her by GeorDavie,
on her wedding finger of all fingers.

Also see:
YouTube: – Why I could never leave my Spiritual Father. ,,

I genuinely want to see Kathryn’s ministry continue,
indeed increase,
but without this unnecessary connection to GeorDavie.

I also want to see GeorDavie’s ministry continue,
indeed increase,
but with all the changes that God wants to make.

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In the video:
YouTube: – Maintaining the Anointing: Keeping Jesus First, ,,
at 14m 5s to 14m 35s,
Kathryn says that she became a Christian aged four
and that she values her Christian parents
and the entirely Christian upbringing they gave her.

I reckon that Kathryn:
        went on a worldly reality show to find a husband
       
YouTube: – Kathryn Krick love at first kiss, ,,
        instead of checking out her small(?) church,
        or other churches, or Christian marriage sites,
and:
        did an acting part,
        playing the part of a porn star of all things
        (though not, of course, doing any actual porn),
because, well,
there are two extremes
in the Christian spectrum.

        There’s the:
                 “I’ve done every wrong, became worldly wise. 
                 But I then experienced forgiveness and miracles
                 from this loving God.
                 So I’m sick of sin and instead love him
                 & live only for him.”
        kind of extreme Christian.

        And then there’s the:
                 “I became a Christian as a child,
                 was brought up in a Christian home,
                 and have been protected from the world
                 throughout my childhood & teenage years.
                 So, though I love God, I wonder what I missed.”
        kind of extreme Christian.

        This would explain why,
        at  14m 30s  to  16m 45s  in the above video,
        it was the potent experience of
        baptism in the Holy Spirit
        that snapped her out of it.


Yet she is also an
ambitious woman:
        had an ambition to produce Christian songs
        and now has a greater ambition: worldwide revival.


Hence I’m concerned that GeorDavie is, for now,
somehow using Kathryn’s two qualities:
        inexperience
        & ambition,
to his own ends.

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Does GeorDavie:
        have
the Holy Spirit in him
        & hence do miracles,
and yet also:
        have a demon influencing him?

If so, how might that work?

Or, if only a demon is involved,
why might a demon cast demons out of other people
or even heal people?

I do my best to explain such things
in the following four links:

        The sixth & seventh cells
        (starting
If you are a believer)
        of
ANOTHER EXAMPLE: TEMPTATIONS.

       
WHY DO DEMONS ONLY TEMPT, WHY NOT CONTROL?,,
,         ,
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        Perhaps the first six cells of
       
DEMON POSSESSION,,
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TRICKS & MIRACLES,,
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The late TB Joshua
was an anointed minister
who had nevertheless committed serious crimes.
TB Joshua: Megachurch leader
raped and tortured worshippers, BBC finds
. ,,,

I can’t see any reason why his accusers would lie.

Indeed, the following YouTube video
is a reason why his accusers might hide
and need courage to speak out.

       
YouTube: – Trending NOW:
,      ,      Prophet T.B. Joshua’s Accusers Cry Out For Help …
. ,,,
        The man defending the late prophet TB Joshua
        speaks with threats, like an Old Covenant prophet.

        Whereas Jesus told all Christians
        to forgive all who persecute them
        and to love all their enemies
        (whether the persecution’s justified or not).
        Matt c5 v38-48   Luke c6 v27-36,,,

Question:
        How can such ministers preach the Gospel
        and:
        miraculously heal, to back up the Gospel,
        yet:
        also commit crimes?

I reckon that a Christian,
who is indeed anointed,
YouTube: – Disgusting Neck/ Back Ulcer Healed
After TB Joshua Prayer
,
but who later also sins, indeed commits crimes,
may be like someone who:
        wins the lottery
        then finds that winning has ruined their life:
 
        God’s gift, of you doing many miracles,
        would cause:
                 adulation (it shouldn’t be so, but it happens),
                 and great trust,
        from people.

        These would give you new opportunities
        to be vain/greedy/lustful and get away with it.
        Opportunities that you may not have prepared for.
        Opportunities that demons will encourage you to
        make the most of.

Demons look even harder for a crack in the armour
of an anointed Christian.

See cell starting:
A demon will keep. ,,,

See the section:
STRATEGY. ,,,

See cell starting:
Regarding everyone. ,,,

God doesn’t take back, from beings,
in this New Testament era,
what he has promised or given
(it’s a time-travel thing).

See:

WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER ,,,
and:
COMMANDS THAT INVOLVE THIS SECOND DIMENSION. ,,,

So, if God has given, or has promised he will give,
a miraculous anointing,
and the person has accepted it,
then God will never take it away.

However, by committing crime you force the Holy Spirit
out of all the rooms of your mind, all the areas of your life.
Though he’ll remain in the hallway.
 
But the Holy Spirit needs to be in:
        every room of your mind,
        every area of your life,
for a miracle producing ministry.
 
Hence, over time, a sinning minister would:
    o   Increasingly rely on the faith of:
                 the congregation
                 &/or the individual being healed or delivered.

   
o   Increasingly need to:
                 slowly jolt him/herself out of the world
                 before a healing service.
   
o   May eventually need to:
                 fake miracles,
                 or quit the ministry.

Perhaps see:

        The sixth & seventh cells
        (starting
If you are a believer)
        of
ANOTHER EXAMPLE: TEMPTATIONS.

       
WHY DO DEMONS ONLY TEMPT, WHY NOT CONTROL?,,
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        Perhaps the first six cells of
       
DEMON POSSESSION,,
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TRICKS & MIRACLES,,
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WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?

Getting back to the subject of success stories:

Many churches have used secular methods
to advertise the Gospel:
        social events,
        entertainments,
        novelty guest speakers,
        etc.


But Jesus used healing miracles
and miraculous signs & wonders.

Paul’s modus operandi, on his first missionary journey,
was to:
        go into a town,
        do a miracle to attract a crowd,
        preach the Gospel (& do more miracles),
        then, after a while, there’d be a backlash
        so he’d be chased out of town,
        then he’d go to the next town
        and do the same thing all over again,
        repeating the process from town to town.

On his second missionary journey:
        he revisited each town,
        found that the dust had settled
        and that churches had formed in his absence.

My point is that:
        Paul started, each time, with a miracle,
        just like Peter did, in Acts c3.
        And that we should do likewise.


   
    Eph c1 v19-23    and    1 Cor c12 – c14   combined:
        Jesus is now the head
        and you, the church, are now the body.
        Hence you, like Jesus,
        have been given the Spirit
        so that you too can have the gifts of the Spirit
        including doing miracles
.   my abbn

        Perhaps see: CONTINUING THE SON’S WORK.,,,

        Though also see
TRICKS & MIRACLES. ,,,

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WHICH KIND OF CHRISTIAN ARE YOU?
(THE THREE KINDS OF FRUIT)

 

Some Christians on this webpage do miraculous healing.
But they do it in odd ways, in ways that Jesus did not do.


And we must keep a look out for the demonic.
        Perhaps again see:
       
TRICKS & MIRACLES, ,,,
        and
the links within it.
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However, if you are not doing miracles, at all,
‘Do’ is the verb used in the KJV.  (Though see Acts c3 v12 & v16.)

then be careful not to
throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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In a Christian – the Gospel produces three kinds of fruit:
    a)
Stop doing bad   1 Cor c15 v9  
        (needless to say, this includes stopping doing supernatural bad   Acts c8 v5-13).,,
    b) Do natural good.   Acts c2 v45  
    c) Do miraculous good.   Acts c3 v1-8   


Hence there are six possible combinations:
    a)  Stop
doing bad.   

    b)  Do natural good. 

    c)  Do miraculous good.

    a)  &  b)  Stop doing bad.  Do natural good. 

    a)  &  c)  Stop doing bad.  Do miraculous good.

    a)  &  b)  &  c)  Stop doing bad.  Do natural good.  Do miraculous good.


    Perhaps again see:
CONTINUING THE SON’S WORK. ,,,

    Hence a Baptist Christian
    might complain about a Pentecostal meeting 
    where repentance (stopping doing bad) wasn’t preached.


    For example:
   
YouTube: – Street Preacher Confronts
,      John Kilpatrick & Nathan Morris at Bay of the Holy Spirit!
,,,

    But a Pentecostal Christian might reply
    that their congregation had stopped doing bad long ago
    and had now started doing miraculous good.

    Indeed, to do miraculous good,
    you need to have stopped doing bad.


    See Mark Hemans’ teaching on stopping doing bad,
   
YouTube: – Living for the glory of God, etc,,,
    at top of overflow webpage:
   
More Mark Hemans’ teaching.
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    Andrew Wommack noticed is that Baptists (& others)
    are good at doing things:
                 organising, running things, preaching,
                 evangelising, social work, building, etc.

    Hence, when someone’s sick, they:
                 form long prayer chains, pray intensely, etc.

    When the only thing they should actually do is nothing,

    they should only believe,

    should let go of the problem
    so that God can have it.

 

    Baptists (& others I’m sure) have all the faith they need,
    the tiny, mustard seed size, amount of faith.

    But they also have a great deal of unbelief (or doubt),
            knowledge all about the illness
            and
            a lot of focussing on the illness.


            See:
UNBELIEF, & KEEPING YOUR HEALING,  
            and the links within it.
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WHY BIBLICAL TEACHER-HEALERS DO IT

 

Biblical teacher-healer’s teaching
is usually corrective.

    You may ask:
            “What is there to correct?”

    I say:
           
Much Church of England liturgy, prayers, & hymns
            repeatedly ask God to
                     forgive us,
                     come to us,
                     heal us,
                     give to us,
                     help us,
                     etc.

            But God cannot do these things
            because he has already done them,
            all of them, for all of us,
            by way of Jesus being crucified in our place
            so that we can have God’s Holy Spirit.

            But do you believe it
            and do you believe it applies to you?

 

            Repeatedly asking
            shows that we don’t believe.

            Indeed, repeatedly asking
            reinforces that we don’t believe.

 

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The Gospel is the good news
that
Jesus was Punished in place of all of us:

        His Punishment made all our sins (before God) vanish
        even though all our wrongs (before each other) remain.


        Perhaps see:
THE TWO ACCOUNTS. ,,,

 

You become a Christian:
        not when you only know the Gospel, in your mind,
        but when you also believe the Gospel, in your
heart. 
                                                                     
Rom c10 v10   

        On believing – your heart becomes grateful
        and so renews your mind:
            1) Duplicates its belief into your mind
                 so that even your mind believes.
            2) Establishes the pattern of that belief,
                 the pattern of the Gospel, agape love,
                 throughout your mind,

        then:
                 your heart
                 & your mind
                 & God’s Spirit inside you
        become alike,

        then all three of you can live & work together
        without getting in each other’s way.

 

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THE THREE MAIN FEATURES
OF BEING A CHRISTIAN

 

1) Jesus’ crucifixion put all humans right with his Father.
    Hence his Father gave his Spirit to all humans.

    Mind you, even though God gave his Spirit to everyone:

            Only those who’ve accepted Jesus’ sayings:
                     “forgive all who’ve hurt you”,
                     “love your (personal) enemies”,
                     etc,
            will accept help to do those things,
            namely from God’s Spirit.

            Only those who’ve accepted the Son
            also accept the Spirit.


            The Spirit makes no sense to unbelievers.

       
    John c14 v16-17:
            And I will pray the Father,
            and he shall give you another Comforter,
            that
he may abide with you for ever;
       
    even the Spirit of truth;
            whom the world cannot receive,
       
    because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:
       
    but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you,
            and shall be in you.
   KJV


   
        Perhaps read the whole of John c14.


2) You can pray for
   
miracles healings & blessings:  Matt c7 v7-11
            By believing, in your heart,
            that Jesus made everyone right with his Father.
            And by your heart then
            renewing your mind accordingly,
            so that your mind also believes
            though without doubting
*.
            So that all of you, heart and mind,
            contains God’s Spirit
            and has faith in Jesus’ name. 
Acts c3 v16
    and your prayers will
    immediately/soon be answered
.


3) You can command
   
miracles healings & blessings:
            By believing, in your heart,
            that Jesus made everyone right with his Father.
            And by your heart then
            renewing your mind accordingly,
            so that your mind also believes
            though without doubting
#.
            So that all of you, heart and mind
            contains God’s Spirit
            and has faith in Jesus’ name.
   Acts c3 v16
    and what you’ve commanded will
    immediately/soon happens
.

Perhaps see: WHY GOD’S WORDS HAVE POWER. , , ,

 

All the above assumes that you:

   
o   Have renewed your mind.
        Hence act out of agape love towards everyone
        and think like God thinks.

   
o   Pay attention when he speaks
        and, where appropriate, obey
        (e.g. what to pray for
        & what to not pray for).

 

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*#Christians often use the word doubt (cell before last)
But unbelief is the technically correct word:
        You can have doubts about all sorts of matters
        but unbelief is specific to you doubting about God:

        Only believers can have unbelief:
                 Only believers can doubt in their mind
                 what they believe in their heart.

        Unbelievers cannot have unbelief:
                 Unbelievers cannot doubt in their mind
                 what they believe in their heart
                 because they don’t believe in their heart
                 in the first place.

        See earlier two cells:
Andrew Wommack noticed. ,,

       
Perhaps see: UNBELIEF. ,,

 

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UNCONDITIONAL LOVE

 

Believing that the Son was crucified in our place
is good, indeed vital.


But believing is not exactly paying-your-way.

Hence Jesus’ act of God’s love towards us, his crucifixion,
and the good results of it,
are, from our point of view, unconditional.


        Luke c15 v11-32:   my abbreviation
        God is like a father who loved his two sons.
        One son asked for his inheritance in advance
        but then wasted it all on wild, immoral, living.
        Hungry, he returned home to apologise deeply.
        But his father’s very warm welcome
        drowned out his apologising.
        The other son, though his inheritance was still intact,
        was angry at his father’s welcome for his brother.
        His father tried to reassure him:
        told him that he loved them both, equally, unconditionally.
        But the son wouldn’t have it, didn’t understand such love,
        saw only that he should be loved, not his brother.
        His isolation from his father & brother
        had become vivid.
   my abbreviation

 

You may complain:

        “But other parts of the Bible
        say that God’s love is
conditional:

       
1 Cor c6 v9-10   Gal c5 v19-21   Eph c5 v5   Col c3 v5,,,

 

        Heb c13 v4   Rev c21 v8   combined,  my abbreviation:
        The following won’t go to Heaven
:
            F
ornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate,
            abusers of themselves with mankind,
            thieves, the covetous, drunkards, revilers,
            extortioners.  Those who practice, or who have:
            sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
            idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy,
            fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions,
            divisions, envy, orgies.
            Whoremongers, the (morally) unclean.
            Those having: inordinate affection,
            evil concupiscence, anger, wrath, malice.
            Those having: blasphemy and filthy
            communication come out of their mouths.
            The abominable, murderers, liars.
   my abbreviation”

I reply:

        “Much of the Bible stars, and is even written by,
        people who had actually committed
        some of those crimes.

        Admittedly they repented, became good.
        But they’d still done those crimes in the past.”


        See:  FOR A WHILE THE SOUL MAY BE
,                            THE OPPOSITE OF THE HEART/SPIRIT
. ,,,

 

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God, in this Church Age, 33ad to now:
        is not just,
        but loving:

        Hence the word justice is:
                 29 times – in the Old Testament
                 0 times – in the New Testament.

        And (last time I looked at
Smith’s site*)
        Smith Wigglesworth’s sermons contained:
                 277 times – the word love
                 0 times – the word justice.

,         ,         ,         ,         * Smith’s sermons are rotated by the site owner.

 

If God being absolutely loving,
and the Cross being unconditional,
make you say:
        “Then what’s to stop us sinning?”
it shows you haven’t yet believed
so that you don’t have gratitude:


        To only know, in your mind,
        that God takes no note of sins,
        without also believing it, in your heart & mind,
        would indeed make you sin more.


        Rom c6 v1-2     Rom c6 v15     1 Cor c6 v12-20,,,

 

        &     Gal c2 v16-21: 
        Did God Forgive us
        so that we can sin (more) freely?
        Absolutely not
.   my abbreviation

 

        But if you do believe, in your heart,
        and if your heart has renewed your mind accordingly:

                 1) Duplicated its belief into your mind
                     (so that even your mind believes).

                 2) Established the pattern of that belief
                     the pattern of the Gospel, agape love, 
                     throughout your mind.


        then you would think and act
        like God currently thinks and acts:
        completely constructively.


        That includes personally forgiving
        all
who’ve hurt you, however great the hurt
        (though the law of the land should still be obeyed).

 

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