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WORSHIP & PRAISE, AND BELIEF
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Praise is an expression of the soul:
You can praise God, or
indeed anyone:
, , , , You praise them
, , , , or you praise their right, & ideally good, qualities
, , , , &/or things they’ve done.
, , , , Perhaps see earlier sections: GOOD & BAD, RIGHT
& WRONG
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, , , , immediately after it: EXAMPLES.
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Whereas worship is an expression of the heart/spirit:
You worship only God.
, , , , Perhaps see first cell
, , , , of earlier section: HEART/SPIRIT & SOUL, , , ,
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If
you are a believer, a Christian:
You worship only
out of gratitude
(not out of
proudly earning, vanity, etc).
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Belief . . . . . . . . . . . . causes .
. . . . . . worship & praise.
Worship & praise . . . do not cause . . . belief.
, , , , , , , , , , , That would be mere brainwashing,
, , , , , , , , , , , belief should already be there.
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But worship
& praise still have a function
(as well as being great in their own right):
1) They help you renew your mind:
i.e.
help your heart/spirit:
o duplicate
its belief
into your mind,
o establish
the pattern of that belief,
the pattern of the gospel, agape love,
throughout your mind.
, , , , , Perhaps see earlier sections:
, , , , , WHAT IS A BELIEVER? WHAT IS THE GOSPEL?
, , , , , and:
, , , , , HOW TO RENEW YOUR
MIND.
2) Worship & praise help:
belief to act,
faith to exist.
, , , , , Perhaps see earlier section: FAITH.
3) Worship & praise
temporarily prevent unbelief (doubts) from acting.
, , , Perhaps see earlier section: UNBELIEF.
Or, as Andrew
Wommack often puts it:
Worshipping
& praising God
is one way
to magnify him, in your eyes.
This
de-magnifies your problems, in your eyes,
puts them
in perspective.
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Here is an Old Testament, indeed Old
Covenant,
example of 2) & 3).
, , I wish I could find New Testament, New Covenant, examples.
, , But I’m sure lots of great Christian meetings have seen it in
action.
2 Chron c20 v1-30 my abbreviation:
Israel had split to become Israel and Judah.
And now Judah was threatened, with
extinction or slavery,
by the vast combined armies
of its surrounding nations.
But Jehoshaphat, king of Judah, proclaimed a
national fast.
Many eagerly came to fast,
pray, & seek God.
Then king Jehoshaphat prayed
in front of them all.
Then God’s Spirit replied,
through Jahaziel,
that the battle was not
theirs but God’s,
and that God would win
it for them
but that they had to go
to their enemies and face them.
So Jehoshaphat encouraged
the people to have faith,
in God,
and in the prophets.
So they went, full of
gratitude, expecting nothing but victory.
The singers were at the
front, ahead of the army, singing:
“Give thanks to the
Lord,
for his love endures for ever.”
When they arrived they found
that God
had set [angelic?] ambushes
that had encouraged the
enemy armies
to wipe each other out – to
a man.
They were all dead, leaving
collectable booty.
Then the fear of God came
upon the surrounding nations
and they left Judah alone. my abbreviation
Though realise
that worship & praise mean nothing
if you worship & praise
God
only in order to get
something from him.
Worship
& praise is not worship & praise if it’s fake.
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As I wrote
earlier on this webpage:
Worship & praise do not cause belief to exist.
Belief should already be there:
To use worship & praise
to try to cause belief to
exist
would be mere attempted
brainwashing.
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LYRICS &
MELODY
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For
non-Christian songs:
self-expression = soul-expression.
For Christian songs:
self-expression = heart/spirit-expression.
For Christian songs for Christians who’ve
renewed their minds:
self-expression = heart/spirit-expression
+ soul-expression.
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Perhaps see first two
cells
of earlier section: HEART/SPIRIT & SOUL, , , ,
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God invented time, in Heaven, and here,
because it increases complexity, increases structure.
See earlier section:
WHY
ISN’T HEAVEN & THE UNIVERSE
JAM-PACKED FULL OF STUFF?.,,,,,
Hence:
melody,
harmonies,
rhythm,
a variety of instruments,
lyrics,
the use of different parts
(bass, tenor, alto, soprano,
etc)
the use of different kinds
of voices
(pop, classical, choir, etc)
etc,
all exist because they constitute so much structure.
Indeed, structure that’s designed to match & interact with
many other social & spiritual structures.
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There
are many songs
about the Crucifixion causing us to:
o repent,
o have a future in Heaven.
But there are few songs
about the Crucifixion causing us to:
o receive God’s Spirit,
o renew our minds
which enables the Holy
Spirit to live in:
every room of
your mind,
every area of
your life,
which enables the gifts
of the Spirit.
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WHAT
SOME CHRISTIAN
LYRICS ARE
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CHRISTIAN
LYRICS SHOULD BE
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Old Covenant:
God
is holy.
But we are not holy:
neither to him,
nor to others.
Hence God is up there
and we can’t get near him.
Hence I bow down
because he is the Lord.
God is with us.
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New Covenant:
Even
if I am not yet
holy to others,
God has made all of us
holy to him.
I believe it. So I am
grateful to be loved
by the Father, the Son,
and the Spirit
who lives in me.
I have made God
(all three) my Lord.
God is with us and in us.
, John c3 v5 Acts c1 – c2 Col c2 (v9-10)
Eph (c3 v20) Rom c8 v9 2 Tim c1 v14
1 John c3 v24 1 John c4 v12-13,,,,,
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The
Psalms are in the Bible.
So they are all Christian.
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Psalms sometimes
prophesy the New Covenant,
but are usually Old Covenant.
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, The, otherwise excellent, song:
, YouTube: – Blessed Be Your Name (worship video w/ lyrics), ,,,,,,
, is flawed by the Old Covenant concept line:
‘You give and take away’, from Job c1 v21. , ,
, See earlier section: THE PROBLEM WITH BELIEVING THAT GOD STILL DOES BAD.,,,,,,
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Singing:
“I will praise you.”
“I will love you.”
“I will etc.”
Every time you
sing these
they imply
that you’ve not yet done them.
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Singing:
“I praise you now Jesus:
because you have taken
the Father’s wrath
against me,
and because of the good,
even miraculous good,
that the Cross now causes.”
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I pray in Jesus’ name.
But I don’t get all I pray for.
So God doesn’t love us
as much as he can.
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Considering the Cross:
God must love us
as much as he can.
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We should improve
this world.
Hence our lives should be
centred on this world.
Besides, this world is our home.
Above statements
are: true false
false.
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Luke c14 v26-35:
You cannot be a Christian
unless you give up your family,
even give up yourself,
and are clear about it all
Cut your bonds with the world
or you are useless to God.
my abbreviation
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Jesus – you died for me.
So I owe you all my things.
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Jesus – you died for me.
So I have given you myself
(all my things come with me).
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God is a
mystery:
to the mind,
and perhaps to the heart/spirit.
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We know,
love, and contain, God,
hear him speak if we quieten,
& have a thick book
all about him.
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Songs that try
to create belief.
See earlier section:
WORSHIP & PRAISE, AND BELIEF, , .
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Songs that
encourage faith,
encourage your belief to act.
See earlier section:
WORSHIP & PRAISE, AND BELIEF, , .
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Often singing about
God,
often singing in the third person.
The words are just dry & factual
such that they could be sung by
a fawning human
or even a fawning demon.
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Often singing to God
often singing in the first person.
The words are praise & worship,
so no demon can sing them,
and an unbeliever singing them
would be visibly uncomfortable.
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Songs that, on inspection,
are mostly about us.
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Songs that are about God:
what he has done for us:
the Cross & the Spirit
and how they’ve changed us.
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, , Perhaps see earlier section:
, , WHICH KIND OF
CHRISTIAN ARE YOU? (THE THREE KINDS OF FRUIT). ,,,,,
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DOUBLE CHECK
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Regarding
Bethel (& Hillsong, Elevation, etc)
churches:
the music is all good, Dave here: review & double check this
section.
and the lyrics are usually
good (i.e. biblical),
and the preaching is usually
good.
But (some of) its members’
& leaders’ thinking is wrong,
certainly in part.
, , Perhaps see text (starting Ahh, it’s clearer now.)
, , near end of fourteenth cell
, , of earlier section: ABOUT BIBLICAL
TEACHER-HEALERS GENERALLY.
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They
all believe Jesus’ promises
that we believers can, in
Jesus’ name,
command, or pray for:
o miraculous
healings,
o the
necessities of life.
And they are right to do so.
God does only good things
in this Church Age. John c10 v10,,,
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And it
seems to me, that some at Bethel
thought about this
and concluded that:
“This is better
than the New Age teaching
we used to hear.
It’s God himself, doing good, to, &
through, us.”
And, again, they are right
to think that.
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However,
one shouldn’t make that conclusion
without considering all of Jesus’ sayings.
If a song writer or worship
leader is not spiritually mature
they may ignore the bad
concepts that Jesus taught.
For the bad concepts
that Jesus taught
see earlier section: WHY THROW AWAY THE PRESENTS?,,,,,,
and the links within it
(this link does not
open a new tab).
, , , Perhaps also ee earlier section: GOOD & BAD,
RIGHT & WRONG.,,,,,
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When you lump together:
the good concepts
and
the bad concepts
that Jesus taught,
then the uniqueness of
Christianity becomes apparent.
(The singer songwriter Misty Edwards gets this.
See her YouTube videos at
the foot of this webpage.)
If you chose only the good concepts
and
ignore the bad,
you
could easily make the mistake of:
squeezing
good concepts
from elsewhere,
even from other religions,
into your
Christian thinking.
I think that’s the mistake Amanda Cook
(a worship
leader at Bethel) made in:
, , , , YouTube: – Bethel Church
,, ,, ,, ,, Openly Practicing Islamic Mysticism.,,,,,
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Indeed, many Christians, the world
over:
even if they
don’t add, from elsewhere,
to their
Christian thinking,
at least pick and choose
Jesus’ sayings:
embracing some,
ignoring others.
But is it right to pick and
choose Jesus’ sayings?
Satan & his underling
demons treat themselves as above God
but is that a club you want
to join?
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WORSHIP TIPS
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The mind:
is both static and dynamic,
both
knows and thinks.
But the heart/spirit is only static,
contains no processes:
It: ‘knows’ what it ‘knows’
& that’s the end of it.
Or rather: believes what it believes
& that’s the end of it.
The heart/spirit
is static, contains no processes,
so
it does not notice time passing.
So, it does not get bored.
So, if you consider your own heart’s/spirit’s
favourite praise/worship song:
your
heart/spirit will not tire of it
however
many times you sing or hear it.
But your soul,
or rather your mind within
your soul,
or rather the un-renewed
parts of your mind
within your soul,
will tire of it.
, , Consider: YouTube: – Hillsong - Turn
your eyes upon Jesus
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with lyrics) (Best Worship Song to Jesus). ,,,,,
, , Perhaps see first two cells
, , of earlier section: FOOD
FASTING, ,
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Many
a Christian song is emotional
due to its music &/or lyrics.
But realise that this is separate from (& perhaps different from)
the emotions that the song prompts in you.
Try not to rely on (recycle) the emotions the song provides.
Let your heart/spirit produce its own emotions.
,, ,, Compare the two diagrams
,, ,, in later sections WILL and, immediately after it, FREE WILL. ,,,,,
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SOME GOOD
WORSHIP & PRAISE SONGS
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I
start with some old ones.
Click on the song before clicking on the lyrics.
My comments beneath each song.
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, YouTube: – Kim Walker-Smith - How Great Thou Art
, , (Worship LIVE). ,,,,,
, YouTube: – O How I Love Jesus
, FREE DOWNLOAD hymn with lyrics 240p. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – There is Power (Wonder Working Power)
, in the Blood of the Lamb. ,,,,,
, , , , The verses preach
‘only’ repentance & God’s forgiveness.
, , , , But the chorus (this
part), repeated over & over,
, , , , implies that God also
does miracles.
, YouTube: – Holy Holy Holy (Hosanna) // Stairway Music. ,,,,,
, , , , Conveys the holiness
of God more than most songs.
. , , , , Listen (or sing) with
your eyes shut.
, YouTube: – The Most Beautiful “Amazing Grace” I’ve ever
heard. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Michael W. Smith - Agnus Dei. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Nothing But The Blood -
, All Sons & Daughters (lyric video) HD. ,,,,,
, , , , Perhaps the second
half should be softer.
, YouTube: – Leeland – Way Maker (Official Live Video). ,,,,,
, , , , Realise that Jesus is not the only miracle
worker. Acts.
, YouTube: – CeCe Winans: Goodness of God (Live). ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Goodness of God // Harmonie London (Cover)
, , , , //
Live In Oxford Street, London. ,,,,,
, , , , Some songs preach the gospel better than a
preacher.
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, YouTube: – Ain't No Grave (LIVE) - Bethel Music | VICTORY. ,,,,,
, , , , Great song. Though see: Did Jesus go to
hell
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and resurrection?. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Holy and Anointed One+Be lifted high(Praise)
, +Hunter Thompson+Bethel Church. ,,,,,
, , , , A great song to start
prayer. Video needs editing.
, YouTube: – Be Enthroned - Hunter Thompson | Bethel Worship. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Worthy Of It All + I Exalt Thee -
, Kalley Heiligenthal - Bethel Music Worship. , Lyrics,,,,,
YouTube: – Ever Be - Kalley Heiligenthal - Bethel
MusicWorship. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Build My Life – Housefires III (Featuring Pat
Barrett). ,,,,,
, , , , Regarding the line
“There is no-one like you [Jesus]”,
, , , , bear in mind: We
will never be completely like Jesus.
, YouTube: – Yes and Amen (w/ spontaneous) -
, Pat Barrett | Bethel Music & Housefires. ,,,,, , , ,
, YouTube: – To Him Who Sits On The Throne
, , , + Spontaneous - Bethel Worship | Peter Mattis. ,,,,, , , ,
, , , , Magnificent words,
majestic music & arrangement.
, , , , &
, , , , Rev c1 v7-8 Rev c5 v9-13 Rev v19 v11-16,,,,,
, , , , &
, , , , YouTube: – How to
Read Revelation (Ben Witherington).
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, YouTube: – Kim Walker Smith - Holy Spirit You Are Welcome
Here. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Jesus Culture – Happy Day (Feat. Kim
Walker-Smith) ,,,,,
, , , , I was about to enter
the shop where I work,
, , , , listening to this
song, through my earbuds,
, , , , liking it, and asked
God what his favourite song was.
, , , , Immediately a customer
came out, about to pass me,
, , , , and clearly said, in a
groaning, cynical, tone:
, , , , “Oh happy day” (a
dissatisfied customer I assume).
, , , , But it made me think,
and realise that,
, , , , though we often like
to remind ourselves
, , , , of what the Cross has
done for us,
, , , , that, from God’s point of view,
, , , , it was not a happy
experience.
, , , , It was an incredibly
hard task
, , , , that he’s glad to see
the back of.
, , , , His happy thoughts
& memories are, and will be,
, , , , the results of his bitter pain. Heb c12 v2,,,,,
, YouTube: – Where You go I go Legendado – Jesus Culture. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – There Is A River(Feat.Kim
Walker-Smith) ,,,,,
, , , , Lovely melody.
, , , , The mystery of the Old
Covenant (Psalm 46) ,,,,
, , , , plus the clarity of
the New.
, YouTube: – You Won’t Relent & Lyrics. ,,,,,
, , , , Powerful song about
God’s love for us.
, YouTube: – Mercy | Elevation Worship & Maverick City.
, , , , Testimony song about
God’s love for us.
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, YouTube: – Another In The Fire (Live) - Hillsong UNITED. ,,,,,
, , , , For context, see ninth cell
, , , , (starting Old Testament appearances of Jesus)
, , , , of earlier section:
, , , , HOW
JESUS EXISTED BEFORE HE WAS BORN,
, , , , and:
, , , , Exodus c14 v1-31. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Who You Say I Am - Hillsong Worship. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – New Wine - Hillsong Worship. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Thank You Jesus Lyric Video Hillsong. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – I Surrender - Hillsong Worship. ,,,,,
, , , , Realise that this is
not really a Christian’s song.
, , , , It’s a not-quite-yet-a-Christian
song
, , , , (a believer should
have already surrendered).
, , , , Actually, disregard
that comment, This song can be
, , , , an excellent ‘way
back’ when you’re struggling.
, , , , Likewise:
, YouTube: – Jesus I Need You - Hillsong Worship. ,,,,,
, , , , Sometimes one just needs such songs.
, YouTube: – What A Beautiful Name - Hillsong Worship. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Love On The Line - Hillsong Worship. ,,,,,
, , , , I love the refrain: “To
the one who …”
, , , , , Unfortunately, with Hillsong, as with some other churches,
, , , , there are scandals, great wrongdoing. Though I notice
, , , , that it’s not with singers, musicians, or songwriters.
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, YouTube: – Charity Gayle - I Speak Jesus
, (feat. Steven Musso) [Live]. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Newsboys - He Reigns. ,,,,,
, , , , The UK band.
, YouTube: – Newsboys - We Believe (Live From Ocean Way). ,,,,,
, , , , The American band.
, YouTube: – Kari Jobe - Revelation Song (includes lyrics). ,,,,,
, , , , Personally, I sing “I do
adore you”
, , , , rather than “I will
adore you”.
, YouTube: – Tasha Cobbs Leonard - Break Every Chain
, (Live At Passion City Church). ,,,,,
, YouTube: – Tasha Cobbs - Fill Me Up / Overflow (Medley)
[Live]. ,,,,,
, , , , Though bear in mind
that you merely have to ask God
, , , , in order to get his
Holy Spirit. Luke c11 v11-14. ,,,,,
, , , , Then believe that he’s given it to you.
, YouTube: – This is Amazing Grace Brooklyn Tabernacle. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – God is an Awesome God -
, The Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir. ,,,,,
, YouTube: – The Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir – Psalm 34 (Live). ,,,,,
, , , , To be watched, rather
than just listened to
, , , , (shows how to use the Old Testament
, , , , in a New Testament song).
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, YouTube: – Always on My Mind (Live) – Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , Great worship song.
, YouTube: – Only a Shadow Full Concert - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , A really great concert
, , , , (though too much drums
for me personally).
, , , , All the songs, in this blue cell, are from this concert.
, , , YouTube: – Baptize My Heart
, (Behind the Song) - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , Powerful song, great
lyrics.
, , , YouTube: – Only a Shadow
, (Behind the Song) - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , Again, powerful song,
great lyrics.
, , , YouTube: – You Set Your Love On Me
, (Behind the Song) - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , Great lyrics:
, , , , , , , Flesh would buy from God,
, , , , , , , would give
to God to get from God.
, , , , , , , But God
loved us, by way of the Cross,
, , , , , , , so that we
might love him back.
, , , , , , , The cause
& effect is reversed.
, , , , , , Great musically too.
, , , YouTube: – I Love Your Ways
, (Behind the Song) - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , I adore this
song. It's full of our eternal
identity.
, , , YouTube: – I Will Waste My Life
, (Behind the Song) - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , Just the phrase “I
want to take your name”
, , , , , , speaks volumes.
, , , YouTube: – God is Love
, (Behind the Song) - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , A very beautiful song,
yet solid & profound.
, , , YouTube: – Shine Like the Stars
, (Behind the Song) - Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , “Live until we die”.
, , , , , , Not all Christians do.
, , , , , , Depends on what you
mean by live I suppose.
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, , , YouTube: – See the Way
(feat. David Brymer). ,,,,,
, , , , , , Touching lyrics..
, , , YouTube: – What Only You Can
Do. ,,,,,
, , , , , , Great lyrics. Musically tasty.
, , , YouTube: – Days of Noah (Full Song Audio) -
, , , , , , Misty Edwards. ,,,,,
, , , , , , See:
Matt c24 – c25 &
Luke c17 v22-37. ,,,,,
, , , YouTube: – Baptize My Heart longer version. ,,,,,
, , , , , , This version has an
intro that’s on two levels:
, , , , , , , The general
(God’s point of view).
, , , , , , , The individual’s
(our point of view).
, , , , , , The latter makes more
sense of the song.
, , , , , , All the songs in this
yellow cell
, , , , , , are from Misty’s Always on His Mind album.
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, , , YouTube: – Killing Me with
Mercy. ,,,,,
, , , , , , A compelling song,
about Peter (& us).
, , , , , , From her Little Bird album.
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, , , YouTube: – Misty Edwards" Servant of All " live
, , , , , , OneThing. ,,,,,
, , , , , , Rich lyrics. Sparkling melody.
, , , , , , From her Relentless album.
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, , , Initially
Misty Edwards was an intercessory missionary:
, , , praying a
lot, for, and on behalf of, others.
, , , I reckon
that’s why her songs:
, , , , are more first person
grammar
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grammar
, , , than many
Christian songs.
, , , Hence they
are personal, like a prayer,
, , , the way
worship songs should be.
, , , Perhaps
see::
, , , YouTube: – Misty Edwards Interview from FaithTalks.com. ,,,,,
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Warning: change of mood of writing.
, , , According
to Wikipedia: Misty Edwards,,,
, , , the last
album (8 in total) that Misty made was back in 2014.
, , , 2014 was
also the year that she says she started a 7 year ‘affair’
, , , with Kevin,
a much older, married, gospel musician.
, , , So it’s
highly probable that it was this sin
, , , that ended
her album production.
, , , Look hard
and you can see that it distracted her, spiritually:
, , , , It’s worse
than a guilty conscience.
, , , , Your connection to
Jesus suddenly becomes too short,
, , , , it doesn’t reach him,
and it shows.
, , , , Perhaps see ninth
cell (starting Regarding everyone having)
, , , , of earlier section: TELEPATHY.
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, , , Misty’s
songs speak, not only of our wonderful God & Saviour,
, , , but also of
her, as a creative, sensitive, personable Christian
, , , who
directed, not only her spiritual passions towards God,
, , , but also
her earthly passions, thinking them dismissed.
, , , (Perhaps see
earlier section: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS ASEXUAL.),,,
, , , This might
be fine if it weren’t for the presence of abusive leaders
, , , who did
nothing about their own ways and position.
, , , Kevin’s
admissions, both of his nature, and of his past affairs,
, , , mean that,
though she said she wanted the
affair,
, , , that ‘vulnerable & abused’ objectively describe her at that time.
, , , Prominent Worship Leaders
Kevin Prosch and Misty Edwards
,, ,, ,, Confessed
a Years-Long Affair, Sources Say.,,,
, , , Is Misty Edwards A Victim?,,,
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